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    Why the **** are we talking about MBAs or top 10% of the top 10 when the guy is talking about a community college?

    Also **** MBAs they have been the bain of my existence in the corporate world. Making stupid mistakes based on a what they think they learned in school.
    The biggest problem I have with the majority of MBAs I have meet is this
    Cut cost, assume revenue is going to stay the same, mentality.

    The good old MBA can be a good thing to go out and get from one of them working adult schools like Phoenix or DeVry, after being out in the real world with another professional degree and already on a track towards management.
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    Look man, if you want to use the outliers to create your rules of thumb, be my guest.
    I'm not creating rules of thumb, you are when you claimed Harvard MBA = the good life = alpha dog.

    You've obviously spent very little time on an Ivy League campus...the student body there is just as clueless as any community college (where, I might add, I have met some of the most brilliant engineering students).

    Truly intelligent folks are relatively rare on any campus these days, but don't fall into the "Ivy League = I Did It!" mentality.

    My response was "don't make that assumption" because there are plenty of unemployed Harvard MBAs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    The vast majority of students at those top schools are extremely bright and have spent their whole life kicking ass in school.
    Another assumption, and no, Ivy League schools have no hold on the best and brightest of America, because plenty of the best and brightest often can't afford to go there no matter how good their grades are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    They're not going to turn around and **** on themselves by working some dead end job.
    No, but the world can turn around and **** on them and they might have to "settle". I know hedge fund managers and loan officers "settling" into other jobs right now because they have to.

    Quote Originally Posted by erezb View Post
    The feelings are mutual, lets try and agree to disagree better next time. Or w.r needs to be less obviously in the wrong.
    I'm not wrong about anything, nor are you right about anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erezb View Post
    don't forget the requirements to get excepted beside the money part
    I gave you a poison varrot because whatever your education was, you missed the class about accept/except, and abused the language in a thread about college, no less.

    You must have gone to Harvard.
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    Am I the only one who believes where you get your degree from really only effects where you get your 1st job after that most employers care about your job history more?

    I know that the above statement may not be true for Law & Medical fields. Outside of that does it really matter?

    Example you have two guys that have been engineers for 10 years does the guy with the degree from MIT beat out the guy with the degree from Joe's engineering school if the guy from Joe's has a better more applicable work history?

    In my experience no, however I would certainly be interested in what other people have experienced.
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    It would appear, Harvard MBAs do quite well straight out of school (Who'd of thunk!?); with the class of 2012 as a whole having a median base salary of $120k and median signing bonus of another $20k:

    http://www.hbs.edu/recruiting/mba/da...tatistics.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChenPengFi View Post
    It would appear, Harvard MBAs do quite well straight out of school (Who'd of thunk!?); with the class of 2012 as a whole having a median base salary of $120k and median signing bonus of another $20k:

    http://www.hbs.edu/recruiting/mba/da...tatistics.html
    Holy crap, I should have been born privileged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChenPengFi View Post
    It would appear, Harvard MBAs do quite well straight out of school (Who'd of thunk!?); with the class of 2012 as a whole having a median base salary of $120k and median signing bonus of another $20k:

    http://www.hbs.edu/recruiting/mba/da...tatistics.html

    Yet not because the degree is special or better or because they have good faculty.


    Because of who they meet and socialize with at Harvard, which anyone who knows Harvard knows is the truth.

    Sorry, the Good Ol Boys network beats the name on your degree every time in the real world, and Harvard has one of the oldest networks in America.

    And remember the Harvard MBA class of 2012 isn't "straight out of school"...they're not a bunch of 22 year old's who went in as freshmen, many already had careers before they put in the grad work.

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    Holy crap, I should have been born privileged.
    ...says the white, American male.
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    ...says the white, American male.
    That grew up lower middle class in an ethnic (Filipino) neighborhood
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    It's hard to be wrong about Harvard MBA culture since the Dean of the Harvard Business School agrees, and note one of the big factors why Harvard MBAs are doing so well in light of the recession (which put many MBAs from all sorts of schools, including League schools, out of work).

    Last year, our students graduated and [nearly] everybody has a job. The labor market for them, which used to only be the United States, has now become global.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...893732362.html

    The Good Ol Boys network is truly global.
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