Gong Sau Extravaganza 2013: Sirc vs. 3moose

[Rivington]

Don't leave us in suspense! How did your teacher land?

On his collar bone.

[Middlefinger]

This thread needs more pics of Moosey's GF.

This thread needs less perverted losers.

[Lebell]

i find that a lot of throws in CMA focus on throwing uke face down, and throwing uke so that they are in a twisted position when they hit the ground (causing further injury.)

throwing uke onto their back in judo stems from trying to protect uke. that isn't much of a concern in CMA circles for some reason (there are lots more people where uke came from, maybe? )

Never thought about it like that.
We always took it pretty easy on eachother, esp after a dude broke his collarbone once.

I have no idea how rules are now but when I played Sanda there was a rule specially for this: while throwing no knees were allowed to touch the round or it be disqualified throw. (to keep the worst throws off bay)

We then proceeded to learn how to execute a horsesweep (typical cma move, right?) that would be lead in with an overhand, the over hand would plunge in there and steer the body over your leg.
I hated that throw wbecause its really easy to lose balance yourself and your angle has to be perfect for it to work.
I've seen numeral occasions where the victimer outta reflex with hug the guys middle and both would fall.

[Lebell]

I'd be shocked if shuai jiao didn't have a non-fuckshitup way of throwing someone with their welfare in mind, at least from the shuai jiao I've watched in person.

Ofcourse they do.
In 2006/7ish I had the luck to be able to train with a former shuai joa champion, fresh from China.
Funny fellow, notr a word of english and thick glasses, looked like he came right outta a movie.
Thing was, there were also judokas there, several black belts and like me they werent so impressed (I knew several of them of when I trained with them so we spoke frankly) and he spent half an hour explaining how SJ was NOT judo and how japanese arts originated from China etc.

Training itself included even a drill that suspiciously looked like a form.
One even involved a cross or X step (where you drive your weight in one leg, with second knee in the pit of your first knee), I found it very odd.

[Sri Hanuman]

NOTE: this is after shuai jiao/jiao di combatants stopped wearing horned metal helmets and goring had been disallowed in the rule set.

Why is there a spear coming out of the bearded man's ass?

[RWaggs]

This thread needs less perverted losers.

FEWER perverted losers. Damn, don't they teach you flappy headed fucks grammar?

[Matt Phillips]

Never thought about it like that.
We always took it pretty easy on eachother, esp after a dude broke his collarbone once.

I have no idea how rules are now but when I played Sanda there was a rule specially for this: while throwing no knees were allowed to touch the round or it be disqualified throw. (to keep the worst throws off bay)

We then proceeded to learn how to execute a horsesweep (typical cma move, right?) that would be lead in with an overhand, the over hand would plunge in there and steer the body over your leg.
I hated that throw wbecause its really easy to lose balance yourself and your angle has to be perfect for it to work.
I've seen numeral occasions where the victimer outta reflex with hug the guys middle and both would fall.

This is still the rule in official ammy San Shou. Ring SanDa can be all over the place with rules, although China may have set "Official" rules for it. San Shou rules are set by the world govorning body for international Wushu.

[Matt Phillips]

Ofcourse they do.
In 2006/7ish I had the luck to be able to train with a former shuai joa champion, fresh from China.
Funny fellow, notr a word of english and thick glasses, looked like he came right outta a movie.
Thing was, there were also judokas there, several black belts and like me they werent so impressed (I knew several of them of when I trained with them so we spoke frankly) and he spent half an hour explaining how SJ was NOT judo and how japanese arts originated from China etc.

Training itself included even a drill that suspiciously looked like a form.
One even involved a cross or X step (where you drive your weight in one leg, with second knee in the pit of your first knee), I found it very odd.

There is actually an official for for San Shou that has to be mastered before Chinese players are allowed to spar(!)

I think it's funny that the first American to win the gold medal for Shuai Jiao in China was the very first person mocked in the comedy section of McDojo.com. Even the "No BS Martial Arts" slogan is a parody of a chapter title in his book.

During Christmas of 1997, Dr. Weng brought two U.S. teams to Beijing, China, to compete in the world championships. In Beijing, Furey won the gold medal at 90 KG (198-pounds), and was the only non-Chinese to win a title. In addition, Furey's world title was historic because it marked the first time that an American had won a gold medal in any world kung fu competition held in China.

Not sure if the claim in red is correct. IIRC Boston San Shou team founder Jasn Yee won Taolu gold in 1990 or 1991. Maybe it was silver.

This is from the old "Most Wanted" section of the site, for sketchy people, frauds and schmucks.

[Lebell]

I never got a proper or positive impression of SJ, one chinese dude who was a gm of some sorts showed me some videos once, nice and hard workouts, lifting logs and ****, but because I was used to play judo and got to train with more advanced judokas, I had first hand experience of what judo can be and wasnt convinced SJ had anything to add.
I do not know a lot about SJ but the way it looks to me it seems its reversed engineering from judo.

[Rivington]

Nah, SJ is just applied taiji. <--statement annoys both my teachers.