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  1. erezb is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebell View Post
    Shots? nah. ask a BJJ guy for a proper shoot.
    Usually you work your way to a clinch, wrap his guard up and then go for a sweep, suplex or hip/shoulder throw.
    There are some spectacular kickcounters though.
    Dude when you come here it will be nice to learn some san da throws that **** is da bomb!!!! I know your basic catch the leg and either sweep or kick it till he drops.



    Im not saying he should be banned from attending a TD, if all he NEEDS to keep coming.
    Just get it into his head he should have a very big piece of humble pie, stfu, and just....train.
    Not saying he cant have fun, but imo it would be better if he'd tone it down.

    A guy like Zen put in effort and money to get the TD going, and it would be a pitty if some clowns suddenly turn the TD into some internetextravaganza show, and if you guys are non confrontational, thats fine, but ill open my mouth about this.
    Dude when you come here it will be nice to learn some san da throws that **** is da bomb!!!! I know your basic catch the leg and either sweep or kick it till he drops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erezb View Post
    Dude when you come here it will be nice to learn some san da throws that **** is da bomb!!!! I know your basic catch the leg and either sweep or kick it till he drops.
    you have other options: IF (!) you are able to block&catch a highkick you can actually do a shoulderthrow, except you're using his leg instead of his arm.
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    12/19/2012 7:19am


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebell View Post
    you have other options: IF (!) you are able to block&catch a highkick you can actually do a shoulderthrow, except you're using his leg instead of his arm.
    I've tried this and never quite got it right, I'll get you to show me if you're ever at a EuroMega that I attend.

    Interestingly, I had a batshit insane Aikido instructor who used to kotegaeshi the knee off a caught high-kick.
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    12/19/2012 7:31am


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebell View Post
    you have other options: IF (!) you are able to block&catch a highkick you can actually do a shoulderthrow, except you're using his leg instead of his arm.
    Sometimes i catch those between my neck and shoulder...LOL. But a hypon seonage using the leg is just fucking awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebell View Post
    you have other options: IF (!) you are able to block&catch a highkick you can actually do a shoulderthrow, except you're using his leg instead of his arm.
    Sometimes i catch those between my neck and shoulder...LOL. But a hypon seonage using the leg is just fucking awesome.
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  6. Lebell is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    I've tried this and never quite got it right, I'll get you to show me if you're ever at a EuroMega that I attend.
    Well, to me its more of a showtrick, I never was able to pull it off during a match.
    Imo it isnt that practical.
    I do have another one where you catch/grab the kick, turn your back into it and slide with the kicking movement, taking most force outta the kick, then you have his leg, drop weight, turn in and overhand with sweep.
    My fav move.


    Interestingly, I had a batshit insane Aikido instructor who used to kotegaeshi the knee off a caught high-kick.
    kote gaeshi a knee? what do you use as a handle?
    the ankle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erezb View Post
    Sometimes i catch those between my neck and shoulder...LOL. But a hypon seonage using the leg is just fucking awesome.
    Oh god...I caught one full on the throat once...
    almost went k.o.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebell View Post
    Well, to me its more of a showtrick, I never was able to pull it off during a match.
    Imo it isnt that practical.
    I do have another one where you catch/grab the kick, turn your back into it and slide with the kicking movement, taking most force outta the kick, then you have his leg, drop weight, turn in and overhand with sweep.
    My fav move.




    kote gaeshi a knee? what do you use as a handle?
    the ankle?
    Its actually more like the move you describe above, tenkan in the direction the kick is going, grab it at the knee with both hands (probably die from massive head trauma as he punches you), then you basically just keep up the spin and do the twist/throw on the knee. Its Aikido and he was mad, so its not exactly a practical technique.
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    If you read back a little bit I was talking about the MMA application of the kick catches: the way I was taught to do this, you're trapping (say) an incoming right round kick with two arms on your left side, pulling the ankle across, and retaining it near your own right armpit. If you can get the other guy to fall straight back (as opposed to stepping across for a trip or reaping throw), you reatain the ankle as you both go to the ground. From the natural position this usually produces, you can isolate the guys leg by holding it between your knees, transition your grip on the ankle and step over with your right leg to reap his knee. I found the best throw for this purpose is just retaining the leg and running straight at the guy. With his leg up in your armpit, and your free hand in his face, it's pretty easy to get him to fall on his butt right in front of you. Follow to the ground and pinch the leg between your knees.

    Every caught kick is a high single. Big application to MMA IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy View Post
    Its actually more like the move you describe above, tenkan in the direction the kick is going, grab it at the knee with both hands (probably die from massive head trauma as he punches you), then you basically just keep up the spin and do the twist/throw on the knee. Its Aikido and he was mad, so its not exactly a practical technique.
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