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  1. Pandinha is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    because hes a **** and a pathetic one, nothing to do with his fight anymore. i encourage every nnob to disregard him because he brings nothing to the table except a horrible image of what any one of us poor bastards could end up as if we sufficiently buy into our own "im a badass" hype.


    it was a **** fight by any standard mate. people defending either of these guys in that regard are insane. im pretty sure watching that fight made me a worse fighter. the only reason its been going on so long is because rudy is too bitter to let it go (or just loves trolling it, sad either way) at least panda has stopped crowing about it.
    I've always wondered Alex, have you fought MMA? Anyone expecting a world class fight from a then BJJ White Belt, and a 25 year Kung Fu Master to be anything but, but harping it was a **** fight better have an example of himself fighting MMA showing how it's done.
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    "Just what makes a pure grappler think he can survive with an experienced striker. Especially if that striker isn't following any particular rule set and is well aware of what the grapplers strategies are".
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    He has fought a few MT matches. (posted 4, I think)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit View Post
    He has fought a few MT matches. (posted 4, I think)
    And you completely missed his point. FYI these kind of matches (style vs style) are inherently ugly. It's not a kickboxing or MT match, and even people with way more experience that either Rudy or Anthony look less than pretty in the cage for the first time.

    @Alex you're looking at it like an MMA match, but it's an NHB match. How many rounds of sparring, and how many fights do you think it takes to settle down when almost anything can happen? Even in modern MMA I have seen very competent kickboxers go wild their first time in the cage. All this time on the site; have you never seen an 0-0 mixed match turn into a brawl before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Phillips View Post
    And you completely missed his point.
    I've perfectly understood his point. You need to stop with the hasty assumptions.

    And will you stop explaining toddler level things to non-noobs already.
    Last edited by Tranquil Suit; 12/04/2012 8:49am at .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit View Post
    I've perfectly understood his point. You need to stop with the hasty assumptions.
    So you understood his point and chose to make an irrelevant reply just to be an ass.

    And will you stop explaining toddler level things to non-noobs already.
    Alex had a toddler-level opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Phillips View Post
    So you understood his point and chose to make an irrelevant reply just to be an ass.
    Alex' striking is better than the striking shown in the Rudy vs Pandinha vid. Combined with the his knowledge on MMA (from years on this site alone). He's credible to critique the low skill levels in that vid. Which is what he was saying at the start.

    Look, it was bad BJJ vs bad striking. Those 2 weren't qualified to represent a style.

    Why you'ry trying to justify the vid by "looks so bad cause BJJ style vs KungFu style" is beyond me.

    Oh yeah, that's a side effect from you defending the victimized Rudy after Pandinha set the record straight on what happened. You know, cause Rudy went off again.



    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Phillips View Post
    Alex had a toddler-level opinion.
    So you turn this into "style vs style" and when Alex says it's low skill level, you deduce he doesn't get it? Oi vei





    P.S. DAMMIT I PROMISED I WOULD STOP

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    Style vs. style...you guys never fail to crack me up.

    Hey!

    Youtube called from 2005, it wants its comments section back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquil Suit View Post
    DAMMIT I PROMISED I WOULD STOP
    LOL!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandinha View Post
    but harping it was a **** fight better have an example of himself fighting MMA showing how it's done.
    By that logic 99% of this thread wouldn't exist. Unless Sirc, Matt and so on have video of themselves winning an MMA-style match of some sort?
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Phillips
    Alex had a toddler-level opinion.
    That people claiming skill should look like they have it? Rosier and Frazier looked like they could strike before horribly gassing because they had no idea how to grapple.

    Anthony, a fat white belt, was not John Marsh or Royce and this match didn't happen in 1993 when grappling might have been a surprise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    By that logic 99% of this thread wouldn't exist. Unless Sirc, Matt and so on have video of themselves in an MMA-style match of some sort?
    Fixed.

    Anthony said nothing about winning anything.

    That people claiming skill should look like they have it? Rosier and Frazier looked like they could strike before horribly gassing because they had no idea how to grapple.
    Did Rudy look like he had no idea how to execute the CMA striking he claimed to have? He did look a little slower and wilder than what's shown in the sparring vid of his I posted, but he was going for, and landing the same stuff minus the straight punches.

    Anthony, a fat white belt, was not John Marsh
    I know Anthony said Mash was purple at this time, but I'd be shocked if that were true; this showed up on the web in 1995 IIRC. The number of American purples at that time was very, very small.

    and this match didn't happen in 1993 when grappling might have been a surprise.
    So Rudy's head was still in 1993.
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    Beware my power... Blue Lantern's light!
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