11/04/2012 2:14pm, #11
Wait, no one else is fucking curious as to why a ************ would say only cats with college degrees should get to vote and ****?
The ****? You can't just be saying **** like that and not expect motherfuckers to not ask about that ****.
But Moose, being the motherfucking Moose will likely have some interesting **** to say. So here's to getting Moose to drop some knowledge on ignorant motherfuckers.Originally Posted by Goju - joe
11/04/2012 2:24pm, #12
I think that only I should get to vote
11/04/2012 2:29pm, #13Originally Posted by itwasntme
Thanks, I needed a good laugh. Oh and you both have valid points. It is just funny watching two scorched earth posters, telling someone not to post in a similar fashion.
11/04/2012 3:20pm, #14
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11/04/2012 3:34pm, #17
although i don't think we should require college degrees, i have toyed with the idea of some sort of system where a test would determine if a potential voter is able to show some base level of ability in 1) reading comprehension and 2) the use of logic to show that an argument was valid or invalid. i'm not talking about college level stuff here, it shouldn't be that hard.
i know that this sounds like i want to be a nazi and disenfranchise people, but i think that if there were widespread *free* classes available to teach these basic skills (and maybe other topics like logical fallacies perhaps, and common tactics used by orators to confuse issues) we would only disenfranchise the apathetic, and we could actually have a voting population who understood the issues, and politicians who would have to make more logically sound arguments, and back up their claims with facts. let's face it, politicians from all parties are spreading lies and half truths and selling us on bullshit promises. i blame the sheep voters, and i wish that could change.
we could have political discourse that might actually lead to solutions to our problems, as opposed to the mess we have now. by playing to the lowest common denominator, our politicians get very little done in terms of positive change.
i know it could never happen, but i can't help but wonder if it could help. even if it was put into place with good intentions it would probably break down quickly due to corruption into a small group of the very rich who could vote, and who would rule with an iron fist and make the rest of us peasants.
i suppose the alternative is to teach logic and reasoning in grade and high school. as if that's going to happen."Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
"When I was a little boy, I had a sailor suit, but it didn't mean I was in the Navy." - Mtripp on the subject of a 5 year old karate black belt
"Without actual qualifications to be a Zen teacher, your instructor is just another roundeye raping Asian culture for a buck." - Errant108
"Seriously, who gives a **** what you or Errant think? You're Asian males, everyone just ignores you, unless you're in a krotty movie." - new2bjj
11/04/2012 3:43pm, #18
God damn, it's like every time I come back to visit, you hobby rapists just continue to get more and more fucking retarded.
It's not about being butthurt, which clearly you don't understand. But Moose is a special little tyke because he is all of you in an unfiltered, non-pretentious way. You are all exactly like this little ****. None of you wish to explain anything and just go about shitting everything up with your statements and shitty one-upsmanship nonsense.
11/04/2012 3:48pm, #19
Here is the problem, its not the uneducated or those who lack interest that are the problem. Its those who hold to their chosen party as if it where a religion that required blind loyalty. Then on top of this in this age of selective information it is very easy to reenforce ones own beliefs. Say for instance your a conservative, you listen to Rush and watch fox news and read the right wing blog sphere. Of course the reverse is also true. Then on top of that we have had nearly a billion dollars spent from outside interest on this election.
What is lacking is real debate, by real debate I mean through the use of argument to pursue the truth not to win an argument.
11/04/2012 4:00pm, #20