Explain how Judo is not a soft art?...because it is.

[ChenPengFi]

Yes, he is referring to JJJ.

Just want to make sure others know too; of course what i see as a (spoiled!) segue you probably see as a potentially endless derail.

I'll go make dinner now...

[It is Fake]

Have at it..

[ChenPengFi]

Well, when it comes down to it; the Judo instructors here would be better qualified to discuss Ippon vs Hansoku-make, the Japanese speakers better to explain the Kanji and Romaji involved, and i recall someone who has a "bit" of Shaolin-Do experience and could better discuss it's merits and shortcomings.

I've just been cringing that this was in newbietown, and assembling a stash of gas cans for the impending fire...

[Like Water]

also I pose the same question to you. if my post is false then your saying your in opposition to jiu-jisu being superior to judo so go ahead and explain why judo is superior? I was simply saying I liked what I read bout it better.

Judo being better than Jiu-Jitsu is not the argument. The argument is what qualifies you to give an informed opinion. And what brought that argument up as I recall, is you giving a **** opinion. Because as it so happens, Japanese JiuJitsu is not on the same plane as Judo when it comes to self defense. The difference? Alive training.

Search Alive Training on this site before you bother posting again.

No I went from saying agreeing I have no direction knowledge. as in I've never taken a class on it nor pursued it. I do have knowledge OF judo. through research, watching others, and speaking with practioners of said style.

As I have knowledge OF Shaolin-Do, based on what I've read on the internet. So you're saying that though I've never practiced it, I do have enough knowledge of the art and its workings to advise people against taking it?

i'm sorry according to who's definiton?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_an...artial_arts%29
"Soft technique- The goal of the soft technique is turning the attacker’s force to his or her disadvantage, with the defender exerting minimal force"

"Hard technique- A hard technique meets force with force; either with a head-on-force blocking technique, or by diagonally cutting the strike with (one's) force."
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By your definition of hard and soft techniques, it would seem that most martial arts contain both.

By the dictionary's definition of "hard" judo leans more towards that. As in, "damn that judo is hard, the impact of my body against the mats is hard, and it sure makes you a hard ************ right quick."

further more your missing the original point. I was giving sound advice and gave a few opinions on an art I've not done.

I call contradiction again. You can't give sound advice on a martial art you haven't done. Point in case? You recommending Japanese Jiu Jitsu over Judo earlier in this thread, because you think Judo is too ground-focused. Watch a judo competition and tell me that's sound advice, prick. With only 20 seconds to work on the ground, very little time is spent training there.

so your a life or death situation and you advise to put them in a joint lock rather then breaking there arm? I'm sorry but if my family is on the line or my life they are dead. I'm not playing. right, right, idiocy whatever...

I don't know what the **** passes for a "joint lock" in Shaolin Do, but putting someone in a joint lock give you the power to choose whether or not to break their arm. In competition, it would be considered rude to do so. On the streets, that's up to you.

Idiot.

[Mr. Machette]

Go ahead and bash me... ...

You're so-o ambitious, aren't you? You know what you look like to me, with your good bag and your cheap shoes? You look like a rube. A well-scrubbed, hustling rube, with a little taste. Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you, Agent Starling? And that accent you've tried so desperately to shed - pure West Virginia. What does your father do? Is he a coal miner? Does he stink of the lamp? You know how quickly the boys found you. All those tedious, sticky fumblings in the back seats of cars, while you could only dream of getting out. Getting anywhere, getting all the way to the F...B...I.

[Bezmond]

What did Machette say to you Blaze?

He said he can smell my chunt.

[cualltaigh]

Pedant mode engaged...
You opened it when it was still in noobietown, I moved it before you hit reply.

Yes, we have a bunch of babies posting these last few weeks. So, I'm taking the pedantry out on everyone.

haha, fair enough, and I should've known better. *tips hat*

Spoiler:

About BlazeLeeDragon
Primary Style Shaolin-Do Location Ohio Occupation Testing Specialist Martial Arts Experience ***Boxing (around 1987) - My first teacher was my father. He was a police officer in his younger years and a security guard in his later days. He taught me and my brothers Boxing and basic grappling.

***Karate (1992) - My next few classes where a few seminars in Karate at the YMCA.

***Fencing (1994) - I took fencing classes at the YMCA, learning the foil, epa and rapier. I won a 4th place medal in my fencing tournament in 1995.

***High-school Wrestling (around 1994) - briefly my older brother, got me to try out high-school wrestling... it was short lived.

***Tae Kwon Do/Mixed Martial Arts (1995) - Taught by Master McDuffie Strickland for about 5 years before having to drop out do to money issues. I obtained a blue belt and was about to promote for purple. Entered two tournaments. In the first I won a 1st place trophy for forms and a 1st place for sparring. In my second tournament I got a 2nd place out of 25 for the forms with a form I just learned Pyung ahn 3. I received a 4th place medal for sparring. I was not aware that bent armed punches didn't count in Tae Kwon Do tournaments till after, to my great frustration.

***Tien Shan Pai/"Kung-fu" (around 2000) - Trained with Sifu David Seiwert, (now Guro Seiwert), at the Jade Dragon. Guro Seiwert has given up his Tien Shan Pai training and began training in Filipino Kali which he currently teaches.

***Shaolin-Do (2008) - To this day I'm taught by Master Jerome Cook, who started his training in Shaolin-Do in the 1980s, he has also had training in Ninjitsu and Aikido. As a basic over view of the material I've learned so far, Crane, Tiger, Mantis, Dragon, Pakua, Tai Chi, Hsing-I, Qi-gong, Five animal Qi-gong, I Chin ching, iron man, meditation, broad knife, bo, short stick, straight sword, spear, saber, broad sword, two handed saber, general Kwan's knife, sai, dagger, sun moon forks, two-section staff (nun-chucks), and fan. among other things as of 10-01-2012.

***Self-taught/books/movies/games/videos/others etc...
*Weapons: katana, bow, spear, hand guns, revolvers, rifles, miao dao, liuye dao, axe, broad sword, short sword, bastard sword, shurikens, two handed axe, war hammer, tonfa, sai, knife fighting, hailberd, kwan dao, pike, lance and mace.
*Styles: Ninjitsu, Jeet Kune Do (more philosophy then fighting style) muay thai.
*My younger brother has shared some Katana techniques with him as well. He is also an accomplished martial artist. Quote Don't believe everything you think...

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Sooo, just to get the ball rolling again Blaze, is it your experience being a self-taught ninja that you are drawing on to pass judgement on JJJ/Judo?

[W. Rabbit]

two-section staff (nun-chucks)

No.

[goodlun]

Pointing out the fact that your completely ignorant on a subject isn't bashing you. If you really think it is bashing you than you are less mature than my 7 year old daughter.
You keep saying research yet you don't even know the most BASIC rules of Judo, the victory conditions. News flash breaking an arm in Judo is a Victory condition not something that disqualifies you. You can also win by rendering your opponent unconscious, pinning them, or throwing them with an ippon quality throw, or having them submit, or being ahead in points at the end of the match.

[goodlun]

instead of doing a post by post rebut-all
HOLY FUCKING ****, you got to be fucking kidding me.
You do not understand the Causal relationship between Limb Destruction and an Arm Bar?
For **** sakes you are NOT qualified to teach any person Self Defense I highly suggest that you return any money you have made from teaching lessons as well as do what you can to repay their time. You sir are an ASSHOLE.