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    Its the comparatives standards nowadays, and I repeat, the system is under construction, for now we just standards the equip and rules for free aplication, the guys of the video dont train our system, are just companions of the original idea that comes from various styles to just fight whit safe and realism.
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    No, for real... when the rules become less restricted, I see less diferences whit the fighting styles, if you tells me the chinesse guy whas a other style fighter or anything else, I don't notice the diference.
    But you just said he didn't "look Shaolin"? So you claim to be able to identify at least one "style". Apparently you were expecting something specific, but you dodged my question so I guess it'll stay secret.

    What about the Muay Thai fighter did that look "Muay Thai" to you?
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    Yeah, we are in the process to develop good tecnical hability, but our point of view is not judo or boxing even if we can learn lot of that, we accept that we are just starting and our level is still low, but the orientation is what matters, I want to bring someday a non comercial option most realistic as safety can achieve, whit near full free fight and recreation of situations, the style you come from does not matter.

    For the rest, the work is in progress, the video is just old fun sparring whit the primary rules of the activity, and to be fair, only I are training and strudying all this to make the system, the others are just friends from other disciplines or random challengers who get his ass kicked, so this doest not represent at all the system, just free-play.
    Yeah, you're full of ****.
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    Does anyone else see the word MacDojo & automatically hear Groundskeeper Willie saying it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seeg View Post
    Its the comparatives standards nowadays, and I repeat, the system is under construction, for now we just standards the equip and rules for free aplication, the guys of the video dont train our system, are just companions of the original idea that comes from various styles to just fight whit safe and realism.
    Yes, you are building a Mcdojo full of bullshido. No a bunch of beginners fucking around are still, a bunch of beginners fucking around. It is interesting to note that you have DONE exactly what bullshido builders do:
    • Child Rank? Check.

    • Upping your security and Work training? Check.

    • Saying you are for the street? Check.

    • Distancing your system from MMA and Professional? Check.

    • Mixing various systems with no proof of training? Check.

    • Implying work gives you experience to create a system? Check.

    • Commercial before your system is completed? Check.


    I know everyone was being nice, but I HOPE they caught how well that "video" was done. I've seen worse commercials from established MMA gyms with good income streams.
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    Seeg, the answer to your original question:

    Yes, your system is ##$%^. The way you train will not give you the product you are trying to develop. You aren't sparring hard, because you are over-protected, because you don't know how to spar safely. This will always make you dangerous to your students, and will not realistically prepare you for self-defense situations.

    You might not like the commercialism of boxing or judo (I disagree very much that these are very commercialized styles of fighting, by the way), but they will at least show you HOW you should be training and how to do it safely.

    1. The space suit holds you back. You won't learn to deal with pain, and pain won't teach you anything, and your mobility is greatly affected.

    2. Touching someone for two seconds to win the fight is ridiculous. You should learn to spar on every range.

    3. Bad technique does not automatically correct itself. Your aggression wins you fights, as you said, but you should be learning to win the smart way. If someone with good technique fights you, you will get tired and lose.

    4. This is not a complete list.

    I want to be direct with you, because people are telling you what you need to fix, and you are not listening.
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    I'm just full of good ideas, **** is when you claiming mystic martial powers or old ninja transmissions, when you never accept a minimum realistic fight or make up storyes, purchasing belts or fantastic military grades.

    I can accept my skill is under any pro-fighter, but a pro-fighter lives to train and profesionalises what he does.

    Allow me to reference the infamous IP Man cup



    Yes yes, practically all wing chung instructors hates that event and tells you thats NOT WT, and laught of it, the equip used and combat dinamic is pretty like ours.

    But I can assure you, in that event are great WT masters and fighters that trained for decades, denying that is absolute hipocresy considering the amplitude of the event, maybe the level is not comparable whit profesional fighters that we see normaly in UFC and similars, cause we only see the best of the best in that things, but the fact is, any fatty like my friend that critisice that tournament, just dont got level and gutts to participate, and if he do that, surely got is ass kicked like when wannabe challengers come whit high egos in our combat trainings.

    We just got that line of work, in our asociation are other instructors and security officers that have much experience in real situacions, if the fights result in that ''barbarian brute way'' is because the hostility and force aplied are real, and this is how it looks the real fights outside tatami and rings.
    We can do a lot better of course, and we are working in that way, but telling us we are just crap is telling that you can do better, well, we are here open to everybody so if can you do better show us.

    I have total right to teach what I know and what I'm acreditted for, and I'm doing that whit transparency and dignity, not grades, not belts, no exagerated couotes or extra payments, I'm not affraid of fight and win or lose, that matters is in my system, you can experience and train the more reality ressemblance scenario whit safety, of course nothing really prepares you for the real fight, but hey... 5 or 6 simoultaneously space armored guys in different roles, whit hidden rubber knifes shouting each other, trying to separate a fight escalating of violence, practicing arrests and control, or just beathing everybody, for me are a priceless training for reality, and the best way to adapt your style.

    If is that bullshido, you are telling the same to your own troops and even police and military around the world that training this exact way.
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    If is that bullshido, you are telling the same to your own troops and even police and military around the world that training this exact way.
    No, all do not train that way. Yes, we have called bullshido on some of them that do. We have a current thread dealing with this right now. Yes that just destroyed your entire logical fallacy.


    YMAS.

    You are talking the same **** as the people you despise.
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    These are my arguments to promote that type of training, I belive this is the best way, of course we got other combat exercices and submission whitout armour, but when it comes to full force, the armor is absolutelly necesary, and no matter style or grade, for the profane the fight turns in appearance to brute mindless violence, but there is much more of it that you cannot see if you are contaminated whit movie, martial fantasy or ring games, you must come and fight to see the point.

    And 2 seconds whit your hand pushing firmly the face protector its enough to cause several injury to the eyes, same for the groin, if that incapacites or not the atacker... well I absolutly belive yes, but even if not, you getting the priceless habit to use your hands for some more than striking.
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    If is that bullshido, you are telling the same to your own troops and even police and military around the world that training this exact way.
    I work with a group that teaches and trains law enforcement, federal agencies, and the US military.

    You wanna know the difference between them & you?

    Every instructor has multiple ranks in multiple systems, experience in military or law enforcement, and is a professional martial artist in the sense that their training is their occupation. Yes, some have competed. Others have not. All have real world experience as law enforcement, military, bouncers, protection, etc.

    You have no actual martial arts training to speak of.

    So, you don't know **** about **** and should shut the **** up.
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