Thread: Mr Wizard > Bill Nye
10/19/2012 2:32pm, #31
10/19/2012 3:00pm, #32
I pointed out NASA created a television network called TLC to teach science and learning. Now it's known as the home of Jon and Kate Plus 8 and Honey Boo Boo.
TV failed at science with the exception of certain, rare shows like Nye, Wizard, and Nova.
The Internet is a far better resource for science education than TV is, currently.
Bill Nye is a Scientist AND and Engineer. He's also a mean Stand Up Comedian.
His big claim to fame was being voted the Sexiest Astrophysicist Alive in 2000.
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10/19/2012 3:34pm, #33
As far as an appeal to authority more like the opposite as I was pointing out how unimpressive it is since its the same thing that people with out a specialized education have been doing for years.
Also not my point, the instrumentation is basic, its something the Ancient Greeks and possibly earlier made. The fact that its on Mars doesn't make the instrument any more special.
How many household named "celebrity" scientist can you name that worked on it? (not a challenge I am curious)
10/19/2012 3:45pm, #34
10/19/2012 4:07pm, #35
Now you should watch Bill explain what actually went down.
Was Da Vinci a scientist or engineer? Maybe now you finally see my point.
10/19/2012 4:30pm, #36
Hey look at the picture from JPL and everything pointed out, you see the sun dial on its ass yep they didn't think it was cool enough to point out either.
What scientific discoveries can you contribute to Nye?
Nye like Mr. Wizards realm in science has been one as an educator. I contend that the method used by Wizard was a better method for science education.
10/19/2012 4:40pm, #37
More to the point he took something that was already going onto the robot and said hey lets make it a sundial. They mostly use it as a sun dial by overlaying virtual images on it. He didn't even write the software to make it into a usable sundial.
10/19/2012 4:50pm, #38
So whereas Mr. Wizard had an inspirational TV show geared towards hobbyists, Bill Nye is actively exploring helping us explore outer fucking space. Outer fucking space.
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10/19/2012 4:53pm, #39
And how his obsession with sundials, from his father's POW experience, led to the inclusion of these devices on the mission?
Yep. There was no plan for sundials before Nye. It was his spark of brilliance.
Bill Nye, The Science Guy, would like to discuss with us our place in space. Not with black holes, or multiverses, but here on Earth, where his dad was born. In World War II, Bill Nye’s dad was building an airstrip on Wake Island, in the middle of the Pacific, when it was bombed. He was captured on Chrismas Eve 1941, and was a prisoner of war for 44 months, the longest of any American.
But in camp, he had a special skill. He could tell time by sticking a shovel in the sand, creating a sundial to replace the watches that were confiscated. After returning, he became obsessed with sundials. He created the “sand-dial”, so you don’t have to bring your watch to the beach. He also recived a lifetime membership in the World Sundial Association.
Growing up with his father, Bill Nye himself developed S.O.D., “Sundial obsessive disorder.”
Later, he was invited to NASA to give a talk, and noticed something about the Mars Rovers (yet to be launched): There was a piece on each Rover that was different colored, to calibrate the cameras, with sample colors and a palette of grays of different intensities or, as Bill Nye puts it, “grayths.” They were round, and they needed a post to cast a shadow. Nye, of course, immediately thought, “these need to be sundials!” So today, there are two sundials on Mars.
You can build your own sundial very easily, with a stick and a ping-pong ball. With them, you too can see an analema, the path the sun makes in the sky as the year progressed. ”Very few of us have heard the word analema yet, but we all depend on it.” When the next Mars Rover lands, he wants people all over the world to build these simple sundials, and through them get a better sense of our place in the Universe. “If you take the time this summer, you can, dare I say it, change the world!”
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10/19/2012 5:11pm, #40
This role of being a science educator to a mass market of people is a huge thing. Fine he didn't discover anything himself. However he brought science to the masses.
50,000 Mr. Wizard science clubs by 1965.
Its the hobbyists that are missing today. I contend if we had a large Hobbyists base again we wouldn't be number 17 on science education. We wouldn't have so many people who are clueless about science.