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    So...because while bouncing you were able to block rocks and bottles thrown by idiots in bars, it is easy to block a sling launched projectile and thus slings are only viable weapons if used in an ambush scenario.

    Am I an obnoxious jerk, or is anyone else getting a "Aikido/Ving Tsun easily defeats grappling because Road House" vibe from this line of reasoning?
    First off, I do not think you are an obnoxious jerk. Second, there is a huge difference between someone throwing a bottle or a rock, and a rock thrown from a sling.

    My Dad helped me make a simple one when I was a kid. I never got very good at hitting a target, but I know the velocity and power behind it. Dodging that would be more comparable to dodging arrows, with someone who was good at it, unlike myself. This will give you a general idea. I tried to find better videos, but the rock is moving so fast you can's see it, and it doesn't stick like an arrow for you to see.



    I do not understand why I've never seen this device used, when people are throwing rocks at tanks, or lines of soldiers or lines of police with helmets and shields. They throw rocks, occasionally a malotov coctail. Even a novice could land one into a row of men from a pretty good distance. Throwing low, even skipping off the ground first, would be 100 times more effective than throwing stones. I hope I don't give anyone any ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdogg33 View Post
    I do not understand why I've never seen this device used, when people are throwing rocks at tanks
    That's caveman-tier technology bro.
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    The "logic" goes like this: If there is no compelling historical/archaelolgical evidence that Jesus really existed and was the person as portrayed in the New Testament and other texts (not many of the people of whom I speak would even know of those texts), then how can anyone believe in the whole Jesus-as-Savior story? How can my sins be forgiven because Jesus died on the cross if he didn't really exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdogg33 View Post
    I do not understand why I've never seen this device used, when people are throwing rocks at tanks, or lines of soldiers or lines of police with helmets and shields.
    The kind of sling involved requires a length of cord to be whirled, creating centrifugal force which, upon release, launches the projectile on a straighter, but of course not perfectly-straight, trajectory. The person using it needs to see the target he's aiming at in order for properly-aimed release--so when he's whirling the sling, he's also visible to the opponent.

    Unless, of course, he's smart, gets position behind the unwitting target, and hits him in an unarmored and damaging place, stunning him and allowing you to finish him off with something else.

    What's a more likely way to win using a sling in a duel against an armed and armoured champion (AKA experienced combatant familiar with weaponry of his time) twice your size, in an open field where you're the only thing he has to deal with: face-to-face...or ambush?

    Really difficult choice, that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieux Normand View Post
    The kind of sling involved requires a length of cord to be whirled, creating centrifugal force which, upon release, launches the projectile on a straighter, but of course not perfectly-straight, trajectory. The person using it needs to see the target he's aiming at in order for properly-aimed release--so when he's whirling the sling, he's also visible to the opponent.

    Unless, of course, he's smart, gets position behind the unwitting target, and hits him in an unarmored and damaging place, stunning him and allowing you to finish him off with something else.

    What's a more likely way to win using a sling in a duel against an armed and armoured champion (AKA experienced combatant familiar with weaponry of his time) twice your size, in an open field where you're the only thing he has to deal with: face-to-face...or ambush?

    Really difficult choice, that.
    All depends on the distance of that the engagement begins at.
    I tend to agree if it relatively short the guy with the sling is Fucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli View Post
    So...because while bouncing you were able to block rocks and bottles thrown by idiots in bars, it is easy to block a sling launched projectile and thus slings are only viable weapons if used in an ambush scenario.

    Am I an obnoxious jerk, or is anyone else getting a "Aikido/Ving Tsun easily defeats grappling because Road House" vibe from this line of reasoning?

    First off, I do not think you are an obnoxious jerk. Second, there is a huge difference between someone throwing a bottle or a rock, and a rock thrown from a sling.

    My Dad helped me make a simple one when I was a kid. I never got very good at hitting a target, but I know the velocity and power behind it. Dodging that would be more comparable to dodging arrows, with someone who was good at it, unlike myself. This will give you a general idea. I tried to find better videos, but the rock is moving so fast you can't see it, and it doesn't stick like an arrow for you to see.



    I do not understand why I've never seen this device used, when people are throwing rocks at tanks, or lines of soldiers or lines of police with helmets and shields. They throw rocks, occasionally a malotov coctail. Even a novice could land one into a row of men from a pretty good distance. Throwing low, even skipping off the ground first, would be 100 times more effective than throwing stones. I hope I don't give anyone any ideas.
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    Palestinians use them fairly often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moenstah View Post
    Palestinians use them fairly often.
    I don't have any problem believing that. For someone with a little know how and little other means, it is a very easy weapon to make. Primitive, yes, but also can be effective.

    Just find an old shoe, some thin rope or heavy twine, some basic knowledge of how to tie knots, and you have yourself a pretty good sling. Someone with knowledge of weaving could make one out of a bed sheet.

    It seems this thread has finally died down. It was really crackling for a while with a lot of insults, religion, history, arguments and bullshit. I'm glad.

    I think I might make a good sling, just for fun, to have, and to show my son how they work. It won't be my primary home defense weapon, but I think it might be fun. I don't expect to ever be good at it, but it would be fun to make, and I'd like to show my son how one can throw a good sized rock a long way.

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