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    Quote Originally Posted by Res Judicata View Post
    Virtually no JJJ you'll see in the US is koryu.
    First clue being that they call it JJJ as opposed to the ryu name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilG View Post
    First clue being that they call it JJJ as opposed to the ryu name.
    Yeah but that could just be because every time they use their system's name, someone asks "Is that like Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?" to which they're forced to answer "No it's Japanese Jiu-Jitsu".

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    Help me out here, guys - so, I am tempted to try "Japanese Jiu Jitsu" once I return to Germany, just for the fun of it. Is there just any real chance to learn the original art in Europe, or will just about everything out there be bullshit Kempo by people who "believe in Frank Dux"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist View Post
    Help me out here, guys - so, I am tempted to try "Japanese Jiu Jitsu" once I return to Germany, just for the fun of it. Is there just any real chance to learn the original art in Europe, or will just about everything out there be bullshit Kempo by people who "believe in Frank Dux"?
    A lot of schools use "jujutsu" nowadays to describe their grappling component, but the content therein will vary considerably based on when and where it is from; for example, earlier schools tend to incorporate grappling with weapons, whereas newer schools can have a bias towards purely unarmed grappling. Further, the school in question may specialize heavily in the skill, or simply reserve it for only certain situations.

    Regardless, you might be in for a rude awakening if you think you can just stroll into someone's classical school on a lark. Teaching genuine koryu today is more a vocation than a career. The preciousness of that combined with the old-world sensibilities of a ryu can be rather prohibitive to somone, especially if they err towards training in a gym vs. a dojo environment.

    That said, if you find a group, contact them, and explain your intentions, who knows what might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiro Protagonist View Post
    Help me out here, guys - so, I am tempted to try "Japanese Jiu Jitsu" once I return to Germany, just for the fun of it. Is there just any real chance to learn the original art in Europe, or will just about everything out there be bullshit Kempo by people who "believe in Frank Dux"?
    "Japanese Jiu Jitsu" in Germany is 99% guaranteed to be a gendai Judo-derived hybrid with bits and pieces of karate, boxing etc. Some of them actually fight and don't even suck. They are a small minority, though.

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    Germany? You might try DJJB with Sensei Dieter Losgen.

    He doesn't speak much English, I don't speak much German. Jurgen his 3rd Dan is fluent in English. And his Uke.

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