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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    You didn't see it did you? There is a reason why I call it it a reboot not a re-imagining.
    True enough.
    Maybe for me its more of the lack of an expansive cannon material that makes it seem so not rebooted to just a different telling of the story much like all the Robin Hood or Knights of the Round table movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlun View Post
    True enough and your not wrong.
    Still though I personally still have a hard time calling it a reboot.
    I think it has more to do with it being based off a single source that doesn't have a really deep cannon of material. Things like BSG, Spiderman, Batman, et all have a lot of source material so you need a reboot to make them accessible.
    I call it one because the entire movie follows the original 80-85% I mean they lifted scenes directly from the original and then added some new elements.

    Seriously, the "source material" felt like the original movie not the story. It was like watching the same movie with a crappy leading man and a better looking love interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    I call it one because the entire movie follows the original 80-85% I mean they lifted scenes directly from the original and then added some new elements.

    Seriously, the "source material" felt like the original movie not the story. It was like watching the same movie with a crappy leading man and a better looking love interest.
    This is a fairly compelling argument
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    They're going to **** it up. The social commentary, black humour, satire will be non-existent. But I'll still watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli View Post
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    Robocop and Starship Troopers are supposed to be satire? I thought one was an exploration of how awesome it would be to fight alien bugs with Michael Ironside as your tough but caring Sgt. and Denise Richards as your girlfriend, and the other was Dirty Harry meets the Six Million Dollar Man. And I love them both for it.
    Paul Verhoeven just did an interview where he admits exactly that. He wasn't trying to stay true to the original stories. He was going for social commentary via heavy doses of lead encased satire.

    Naturally, I can't find the interview now.
    Shut the hell up and train.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp View Post
    Paul Verhoeven just did an interview where he admits exactly that. He wasn't trying to stay true to the original stories. He was going for social commentary via heavy doses of lead encased satire.
    That may have been his intent, but I'd be willing to be my own hard earned money that if we sat the ordinary person down and let them watch both films they wouldn't see much difference between them and "played straight" action movies like Under Siege or Commando.

    Maybe it's analogous to an issue of Marvel comics I picked up where they tried to do a parody of some of the wilder stuff from the Fantastic Four's early days, which included the editor's note: "Sorry, dear readers. It's impossible to write parody Ben Grimm dialogue that doesn't sound exactly like the real thing."
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    I thought more people realised Starship Troopers was satire? I knew it was immediately and really enjoyed that film.
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    Was she too fat or too skinny?
    Both. No tits and a gut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
    I thought more people realised Starship Troopers was satire? I knew it was immediately and really enjoyed that film.
    Don't confuse satire with "so bad it's funny."
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