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  1. Kato is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/02/2002 11:15pm


     

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    lol@sam!!

    awesome!! but yer showing yer age mate!Thats made my evening ;-)

    As for 'bludhall' you are welcome to judge my knowledge of WMA any time on piste.
  2. SamHarber is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/04/2002 5:15pm

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    I'm just surprised that nobody else has picked me up on the whole morris dancing thing yet :)
    As for Bludhalls point, you have to decide if what you want to do is recreate an historical style, or use a modern style with historical weapons. Beyond the SCA in america and the various re-enactment groups in the UK and europe, there is no point in learning a historical method as is. There is a lot to be said for learning from that method though, and adapting it to the modern day. Actually, thats a fair point for all martial arts... why do you train in the way you do? Irrespective of the style of the art, how much is based on "Well, they used to do it this way, so we will too"
    Hmm... I'm veering wildly across topics here, so I'll quit now.

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  3. Kato is offline

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    Posted On:
    12/05/2002 6:01pm


     

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    Did Bludhall have a point? What has been said here about WMA that is 'pretty much wrong'?
  4. SamHarber is offline

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    12/05/2002 6:14pm

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    I think he had a point. And I think I answered what I thought was his point. I dunno really. I get distracted while typing sometimes and hey... something shiney!

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    Posted On:
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    I dunno, I think his point was that there were hugely sophisticated martial arts in Europe for centuries. But I think you guys already knew that <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

    One of the most interesting things is how some of the old European manuals seem to start with hand-to-hand as the foundation, and then add weapons using extensions of the same techniques. Seems to be very similar to many Asian MA.
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    12/15/2002 9:49am

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    There is testa, from Eritrea. Consists pretty much entirely of head-butting. There's Arte Dell'Abbraciare from Italy. There's collar-and-jacket wrestling from Cornwall. There's bata from Ireland.

    And Morris Dancing seems to me to be a training method involving sticks, swords and boots.

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    I go on and on and ON about how brave and strong and brilliant and wealthy I am, but in the end I'm all mouth and no trousers.

    That's right children, I'm your average AMERICUNT! and I exemplify AMERICA!:911flag:

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    12/15/2002 10:43am


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    Has anybody mentioned Blaise Loong yet? He's reputed to teach (apart from JKD, FMA and Silat):

    Nagondzog -- the traditional Apache methods of hunting, survival, and guerrilla warfare.

    Hrafns Vegr-- "The Raven's Way": the fighting methods of the Dark Ages Vikings. Emphasis is on the styles of the Einherjar and the Ulfhednar. The dedication to the old Arts of War is still maintained at a few remote Scandian villages in the barrens and deep forests of the far Northlands.

    Capuan Boxing / Pammachon the Roman gladiatorial system of cestus fighting taught at Capua, one of Rome's most famous gladiator schools. Pammachon, an ancient Greek word which means "total fight", is the hard-core version of pankration. Yashai Pammachon allows boxing (using myrmex), kicking, wrestling throws & takedowns, strangleholds, joint destructions, and pressure locks.

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