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  1. W. Rabbit is offline
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    Is Gollum good or evil?

    Gollum is the ultimate (accidental) savior of Middle Earth. Had Gollum's (ring-induced) selfish delusions not interfered, Frodo walks out of Sammath Naur invisible, in full submission to the ring, the West is destroyed, and Sauron rules Middle Earth at least another thousand years. Most likely, Sauron captures Frodo before he can make it out of Gorgoroth.

    Nope, it's lowly, wretched, and morally ambiguous Gollum who destroys Sauron of the Maiar. Not the feudal high king, and not the heroic hobbit. Evil consumes itself, and takes its terrible cost, another Tolkien theme (and not so unrealistic).

    It's not even clear when Smeagol first finds the ring, whether his own evil causes him to murder for it, or if it is the ring itself.

    Tolkien is making a point of the terrible things people do to each other over a love or jealousy of shiny baubles...be it the Two Lamps, the Two Trees of Valinor, the Silmarils, or the One Ring.

    So much for black and white.

    Now back your your regularly scheduled programming.

    Here I'll get dusty started...

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    I was torn over neg rep memes because Dusty won't quit.

    Couldn't decide between a Dawson's Creek meme or Hamas meme, so here are both.

    I'd put them in two separate posts but that would just add fuel to Dusty's warpath.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RurikGreenwulf View Post
    There's no birthplace for Obama.

    We need to take up a collection and send RurikGreenwulf to Florida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryjoe View Post
    There's no birthplace for Obama.

    We need to take up a collection and send RurikGreenwulf to Florida.
    How would I be able to practice my english in florida?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish...Current_status
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