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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli View Post
    Could the war pay for itself? If we were willing to do unto Iraq and Afghanistan as ye olde British types did unto India et al, maybe.
    It was sold largely this way, so the predisposition for colonialism is there, apparently.

    The disingenous part of me wants to point out that the economy under Mr. Obama sank to depths Bush the Younger never even glimpsed, but I suppose the counter argument would be that BTY threw his frat party and then bailed before the landlord showed up, leaving BHO to deal with the comatose naked people and empty beer kegs everywhere.
    Not really a counter argument, more like historical fact. The Bush administration turned projected surpluses into huge deficits. That's a fact. It's not one side of the story, it is the story.

    Basic math. If you stop taking in as much revenue, while launching wars and simultaneously increasing the size of the govt. there will be a financial crisis. That it doesn't start until nearly the next POTUS's term doesn't mean he did it. It means trickle down policies caused the great recession.

    Deregulation, tax cuts for upper earners, voter suppression, gutting public services...these things are shown to be harmful. That the rich Republicans can persuade so many of the poor to support this, at their own expense, shows how badly the educational system has been preparing young adults for critical thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja View Post
    Yah right. That's some selective memory on your part. Everything was Clinton's fault, until Bush left, then it was Obama's.
    Yes, most people don 't know this. Especially brain washed sheep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    Can you give us anymore strawman arguments? State the issues for what they are, not what you believe them to be. Still waiting for my solution to the domino effect.
    It gets stopped by the same whatever it was that stopped the Domino Effect from turning the entire continent of Asia Communist when the U.S. bailed out of Vietnam.

    Alternatively:
    Three corporations going bankrupt drags every company in existence down with them, leaving to complete societal collapse and the U.S. falling under the iron fist of the Amish Overlords.

    How's that?

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    Can someone provide sources on Bush the Younger blaming 9-11, Hurricane Katrina, Saddam Hussein, Enron, etc. on Clinton? Preferably ones that use short sentences and words of few syallables, so this brainwashed sheep can comprehend them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli View Post
    It gets stopped by the same whatever it was that stopped the Domino Effect from turning the entire continent of Asia Communist when the U.S. bailed out of Vietnam. How's that?

    Alternatively:
    Everything breaks down and the U.S. falls under the iron fist of the Amish Overlords.

    How's that?

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    Can someone provide sources on Bush the Younger blaming 9-11, Hurricane Katrina, Saddam Hussein, Enron, etc. on Clinton? Preferably ones that use short sentences and words of few syallables, so this brainwashed sheep can comprehend them?
    Strawman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli View Post
    Three corporations going bankrupt drags every company in existence down with them, leaving to complete societal collapse and the U.S. falling under the iron fist of the Amish Overlords.

    How's that?
    http://www.cargroup.org/?module=Publ...=View&pubID=16
    ...over 1.7 million people are employed by the auto industry. In addition, the industry is a huge consumer of goods and services from many other sectors and contributes to a net employment impact in the U.S. economy of nearly 8 million jobs. Approximately 4.5 percent of all U.S. jobs are supported by the strong presence of the auto industry in the U.S. economy. People in these jobs collectively earn over $500 billion annually in compensation and generate more than $70 billion in tax revenues.
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    Houston, we have Godwinn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli View Post
    the economy under Mr. Obama sank to depths Bush the Younger never even glimpsed
    No, it hasn't.

    The Dow is back up almost 5,000 points, 401k plans have recovered most of their losses, the unemployment rate is stable, and we're past 30 straight months of private sector job growth. Not to mention Detroit paid back most of their borrowed taxpayer bailouts, and banks are lending again (remember the credit freezes a few years ago??)

    A rational mind would call that an "economy in recovery".



    Only someone listening to certain assholes with an agenda would think otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja View Post
    Yah right. That's some selective memory on your part. Everything was Clinton's fault, until Bush left, then it was Obama's.
    Most of it is still Clinton's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhi108 View Post
    Most of it is still Clinton's fault.
    It's all her fault.

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    Houston, we have Godwinn.

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    Well if someone could explain me what half-breed means in USA

    Or does he mean the spawn of a human and a deep one?

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