Renzo Gracie vs NYC muggers

**ouchboy** · Posted On: 9/12/2012 6:12am

Originally Posted by dougguod

There is if that's what some ambulance-chasing lawyer tells them they have to do to lay the groundwork for a lawsuit.

poor choice of words... just sayin

**The Question** · Posted On: 9/12/2012 11:52am

Originally Posted by It is Fake

If you want an anecdotal story, go look for bobyclumsyninja's story about his bullshido posts.

I want to see this ****. Can I get some motherfucking direction and help finding them motherfucking posts and whatnot?

**patfromlogan** · Posted On: 9/12/2012 2:08pm

No hint of alleged muggers talking to police yet, eh? I know what SamboSteve is referring to about anti MMA, and I'm sorry that that is going on (VERY different here in Hawaii, fights are real popular with regional and island competitions [even pretty blatant appeals to what could be called appeal to prejudice: Locals vs Marines events - but I think basically healthy and the fighters mostly show good sportmanship] and mostly MMA fighters are admired - HI does have more mas per capita than anywhere), but I still believe the bleeding hearts will be overwhelmed by support for Renzo. Perhaps instead of fearing the outcome, NYC MMA folks could run Renzo as a poster boy, hero of the streets.

**vaquero de las nalgas** · Posted On: 9/13/2012 5:00pm

I'm not an attorney, but I'd bet on three things:

1. Michael Bloomberg would love to make an example out of a celebrity seeking out street fights in his town...

2. The city prosecutor just got an erection because he's got a well known martial artist who Tweeted before, during, and after he assaulted two men because they asked him for a cigarette...

3. There are a bunch of other attorneys seeking the victims out because they think they will have a civil case against a well known martial artist who assaulted them...and they will push to try the case in Brooklyn because juries are known to hand out big settlements there.

**dRoy** · Posted On: 10/12/2012 3:37pm

Originally Posted by sambosteve

I was talking about this the other day with Matt Phillips and while I don't think Renzo will see any trouble from this, seems he did cross a legal line by finding and attacking the guy who got away. That is no longer "self-defense." A DA looking for an easy win could prolly prosecute him if he could find the victim...especially since he so freely tells the story.

But, more bothersome to me is that we MMA folks in NY are doing everything to look good as we are fighting to have MMA legalized. Here you have prolly the most know MMA guy in NY going Bronson. Could be used against us later in debate.

MMA is not legal in in NY? I didn't know that.

I think your argument is quite logical and it is an interesting perspective.

**dRoy** · Posted On: 10/12/2012 3:38pm

Originally Posted by vaquero de las nalgas

I'm not an attorney, but I'd bet on three things:

1. Michael Bloomberg would love to make an example out of a celebrity seeking out street fights in his town...

2. The city prosecutor just got an erection because he's got a well known martial artist who Tweeted before, during, and after he assaulted two men because they asked him for a cigarette...

3. There are a bunch of other attorneys seeking the victims out because they think they will have a civil case against a well known martial artist who assaulted them...and they will push to try the case in Brooklyn because juries are known to hand out big settlements there.

My God, I agree with you. This is not looking good.

**Tonuzaba** · Posted On: 10/12/2012 6:50pm

What's the big quiet?

I wasn't exactly searching, but it seems like no one's talking about it anymore - so far no news either of Renzo admitting he had us all punked or a lawsuit against him... Hmm... Already forgotten, let's move on?

**Flinter** · Posted On: 10/13/2012 4:06pm

Originally Posted by RhinoUP

Let the games begin!

Am I the only one grounded in reality? So Gracie says he's so thankful to the Billionaire mayor, Bloomberg because "people don't have guns in NYC"...DUH! Tell that to all the armed robbers, muggers, murderers, etc. Besides being a thug himself and committing aggravated assault and then going around looking for another victim, he is obviously NOT familiar with "tough streets". Gracie has to be one of the luckiest swell-heads to ever walk in NYC. Easily 50% of the tough guys, muggers and gang members (nearly 90% of them) in the city carry guns. I guess God does lookout after idiots and egoists after all. That just goes to show how the "real Cobra Kai" thugs have commandeered the spotlight and turned untold numbers of (kids?) into street hoodlums.

For a guy who should have been raised better and who has a smattering of true martial arts training with none of the sense of responsibility that comes with it and who thinks his "sport" qualifies him as a martial artist; Gracie is a joke. A bad one, yes, but still a joke. How does he differ from the typical "Crips" lieutenant or "Bloods" hit man? His inflated ego will be his downfall if this is the attitude he carries around with him. And it's nothing to do with the "my daddy can beat up your daddy" crap, either. A true martial artist has a code; not a vendetta.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 10/13/2012 7:35pm

Originally Posted by Flinter

Am I the only one grounded in reality? So Gracie says he's so thankful to the Billionaire mayor, Bloomberg because "people don't have guns in NYC"...DUH! Tell that to all the armed robbers, muggers, murderers, etc. Besides being a thug himself and committing aggravated assault and then going around looking for another victim, he is obviously NOT familiar with "tough streets". Gracie has to be one of the luckiest swell-heads to ever walk in NYC. Easily 50% of the tough guys, muggers and gang members (nearly 90% of them) in the city carry guns. I guess God does lookout after idiots and egoists after all. That just goes to show how the "real Cobra Kai" thugs have commandeered the spotlight and turned untold numbers of (kids?) into street hoodlums.

For a guy who should have been raised better and who has a smattering of true martial arts training with none of the sense of responsibility that comes with it and who thinks his "sport" qualifies him as a martial artist; Gracie is a joke. A bad one, yes, but still a joke. How does he differ from the typical "Crips" lieutenant or "Bloods" hit man? His inflated ego will be his downfall if this is the attitude he carries around with him. And it's nothing to do with the "my daddy can beat up your daddy" crap, either. A true martial artist has a code; not a vendetta.

I was about to say that you were trolling and then I saw your style field. I KNOW you believe, 100%, every cliche and myth you just posted.

**goodlun** · Posted On: 10/14/2012 12:30pm

Oh yeah NYC that big bad scary place,
I mean the place has had 1,111 shooting incident year to date as of 9/30/2012
I mean look at that number its so BIG
That is until you notice that the population is a ridiculous 8,200,000 people
Huh more people live in NYC then all of Virgina.