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  1. Ming Loyalist is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
    Yet they still allow football. I guess no one ever gets hurt in football.
    that's right. also football isn't barbaric, and no pro football player has ever, *ever* been a bad influence on a child. ever.
    "Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
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  2. It is Fake is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
    Yet they still allow football. I guess no one ever gets hurt in football.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist View Post
    that's right. also football isn't barbaric, and no pro football player has ever, *ever* been a bad influence on a child. ever.
    Oh no, Ming fell for it too. Nooooooo............
  3. judokarl is offline

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    Could have had weapons et cetera. Not going to expound to much further because basically everyone have discussed that possibility already and it was clear that his choice of action worked out for him. I wouldn't have pursued the other mugger, or started the fight with the first one personally.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by ippwned View Post
    But they didn't, they said they wanted a cigarette after FOLLOWING him for what looks like (from the spacing of the tweets) over 10 minutes. Who does that? AND then when Renzo turned around to take a photo they "pretend they are looking at a window". Hmm suspicious behaviour for someone that wants a cigarette, isn't it?

    And he hardly "hunted the second guy down", he was just round the block according to Renzo.

    Granted, the tweets about hitting the muggers eye sockets and choking him out 3 times are quite bad, however they are irrelevant because there is NO WAY that the muggers will go to the police.
    The first point is that they very well might go to the police. After all, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that these two guys were doing anything wrong. Sure, common sense says that they planned to victimize Renzo. But, that sure as **** doesn't amount to probable cause.

    The second and more important point is that they will probably get a lawyer and sue the pants off of Renzo once they figure out who he is. And, Renzo did a good thing for them by tweeting about it. Now they know that they have a defendant with lots of money and other things to lose. Any decent lawyer will argue that Renzo battered them without any justification. "I thought that they were going to attack me" isn't justification for his actions. There is never a legal justification for searching for a fleeing suspect, choking him out, and punching him in each eye three times while he's unconscious; never.

    The third point is that they probably will go to the police, just to bolster their argument against Renzo in their civil case.
    Last edited by Charles Brown; 9/10/2012 4:08pm at . Reason: duh
  5. It is Fake is offline
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    Ipp you are entrenched. No one is saying he wasn't justified. Basically, from his own tweets, he could be sued.

    To summarize CB's points:
    HERE IN AMERICA criminals will sue your ass for dumbshit.
    The internet helps people sue your ass for dumb ****.

    Basically, STFU about certain **** when you post on the internet. This goes a hundred fold when you are recognizable.

    If you want an anecdotal story, go look for bobyclumsyninja's story about his bullshido posts.
  6. danno is offline
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    Jeez, few people round the tubes are theorising that his story is all a lie:

    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f44/re...story-2196523/
  7. thrutch is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    If you want an anecdotal story, go look for bobyclumsyninja's story about his bullshido posts.
    Link? Or search assistance?
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    Why do you think I never post the really interesting bouncing stories?
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    Because the last part you can remember is lying in the fetal position while squealing "not in the face!"?
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    DROP SEIONAGI ************! Except I don't know Judo, so it doesn't work, and he takes my back.
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    Why is it so goddamn hard to find a video of it? I've seen videos I'm pretty sure are alien spacecraft. But still no good Krav.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
    Seriously though MMA bouts are not legal in NY?? I hope this one incident doesn't **** it up for everyone there.
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