Renzo Gracie vs NYC muggers

**Rudenoodle** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 9:55am

Late last night, UFC veteran and MMA legend, Renzo Gracie sent out a bunch of twitter updates detailing his night as he 'dealt' with 2 alleged muggers at the streets of New York City. According to the 6th degree BJJ Black Belt, 2 men started following him for a few blocks at roughly around 3 a.m. ET, and things didn't end up well for them.

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**Bneterasedmynam** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 10:11am

I think this could turn ugly for Renzo fast, he may not catch heat for the first guy, but he actively hunted the second guy down. Even if it turns out they were out to roll him, he still could get in trouble for going after the second guy that retreated. Not to mention he seemed pretty happy about the situation.

**ippwned** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 10:19am

Do you really think that the guys who were going to mug Renzo will go to the cops? Seriously? Nobody is that stupid.

**RhinoUP** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 10:41am

Let the games begin!

**Bneterasedmynam** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 11:28am

Originally Posted by ippwned

Do you really think that the guys who were going to mug Renzo will go to the cops? Seriously? Nobody is that stupid.

How would it be stupid?? All they would have to say is they recognized him and wanted his autograph. It would be 100% Renzo's responsibility to prove they were muggers. Plus HE HUNTED THE SECOND GUY DOWN.

**Tonuzaba** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 11:28am

This is a very interesting situation - we are all just learning how these online, real time communication channels affect our lives.

Renzo doesn't really mention any form of direct or indirect attack by the two men, besides following him and asking for a cigarette. Might have been an intimidating way of asking, and granted, such questions are allegedly very often used to distract the future victim just before physically attacking.

Still, going into detail about how he misses the street fights in Brazil and using elbows, etc... These things will not sound nice in a court.

And the "muggers" might very well sue. It did happen before, right?

**JBliss** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 11:44am

Siiiiick, I like how he mind fucks dude #2 by whispering "This is what death feels like" in his ear. Last time I had to sleep a dude I kept whispering "die like a man"* it makes them wriggle like a fish!

* because (to my understanding) this is what the German soldier is telling Adam Goldberg's character in Saving Private Ryan during his gruesome death scene.

**ippwned** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 11:47am

Originally Posted by Bneterasedmynam

How would it be stupid?? All they would have to say is they recognized him and wanted his autograph. It would be 100% Renzo's responsibility to prove they were muggers. Plus HE HUNTED THE SECOND GUY DOWN.

But they didn't, they said they wanted a cigarette after FOLLOWING him for what looks like (from the spacing of the tweets) over 10 minutes. Who does that? AND then when Renzo turned around to take a photo they "pretend they are looking at a window". Hmm suspicious behaviour for someone that wants a cigarette, isn't it?

And he hardly "hunted the second guy down", he was just round the block according to Renzo.

Granted, the tweets about hitting the muggers eye sockets and choking him out 3 times are quite bad, however they are irrelevant because there is NO WAY that the muggers will go to the police.

**Bneterasedmynam** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 12:32pm

Originally Posted by ippwned

But they didn't, they said they wanted a cigarette after FOLLOWING him for what looks like (from the spacing of the tweets) over 10 minutes. Who does that? AND then when Renzo turned around to take a photo they "pretend they are looking at a window". Hmm suspicious behaviour for someone that wants a cigarette, isn't it?

And he hardly "hunted the second guy down", he was just round the block according to Renzo.

Granted, the tweets about hitting the muggers eye sockets and choking him out 3 times are quite bad, however they are irrelevant because there is NO WAY that the muggers will go to the police.

Re-read the tweets, Renzo went looking for the second guy and then attacked him. No part of that is self defense. And it really doesn't matter what they were doing or if they asked for a cigerette. The only aggressive action taken was by Renzo, how suspicious they were was irrelevant.

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 12:39pm

Originally Posted by JBliss

* because (to my understanding) this is what the German soldier is telling Adam Goldberg's character in Saving Private Ryan during his gruesome death scene.

So you're saying you're a Nazi?