Good/ Bad Uki - BJJ instuctor slaps student and fight breaks out

***battlefields*** · Posted On: 9/07/2012 7:47pm

Miyagi, you seem to know a bit about them, where are they based?

**Mr.Miyagi** · Posted On: 9/08/2012 12:26am

Originally Posted by battlefields

Miyagi, you seem to know a bit about them, where are they based?

Haha, ah, I don't know much, I think they are based out of Melbourne somewhere. Such legit techniques!

Found some more info, found this 'fight' vid when I was randomly checking out InfiniteMMA's forums for BJJ comp notices: "Nexus BJJ altercation incl Kit Dale"

- Think the brown belt is Kit Dale, hehe, looks like him.

*turn down your sound for the grunts of awesome*

**slamdunc** · Posted On: 9/08/2012 10:29am

Originally Posted by Cliff DOG

But it does bring up a point about being flexible and being a good Uke- knowing when it is time for randori or when its time for demonstration or practicing technique.

When I do a demonstration, I ALWAYS outline the steps and levels of compliance. I'm getting to a story, so bear with me.

Originally Posted by Cliff DOG

Demonstation- 10% resistance
Practicing - 25-50% resistance
Controlled Sparring- 50-75%
Sparring- 100% resistance

This is pretty much my thought on the scenario.

When I was with the sheriff’s office, one of my extra-duties was community service. I was assigned to do a one-hour program for the local office of the US Forestry Service. Their contingent was thirteen females and three males; for some reason, even the males were required to attend this training geared toward female evasion and escape. As I was giving my thoughts, I said something like ‘it doesn’t matter how many krotty belts you have, the bottom line is you do what you have to do in order to survive’.

The supervisor was adamant that he be my attacker, and I outlined CliffDOG’s levels of resistance. This guy was 6’- 4” around 245 pounds; neither completely fit, nor a lard-ass, and seemed like a nice enough fellow (I’m 6’ – 1” 170). On the initial rear-grab (bear-hug), he snatched me up and flailed me about like a rag-doll; so much for 10%. I actually had to head-butt and groin-grab just to break free.

I ended up with the cartilage between three of my ribs being turned into dust. If I hadn’t had my body-armor on, I’d have been really fucked.

I later learned from the staff there that this guy is an ass-hat and is a TKD Black Belt. Apparently, I offended him by making the comment about belts not being a factor in the real world. I would really enjoy run into this guy in a different setting; I’d take a DQ just to get to kick him square in the sack.

***jnp*** · Posted On: 9/10/2012 7:27pm

This may be a work, but many of us who instruct have run into the "nightmare uke".

I was trying to demo a move at a throwdown several years ago for someone who asked to see it. The guy who I picked as my partner could not understand the concept of minimal resistance. After trying to initiate the move three times and encountering 100% resistance every time despite explaining the need for compliance, I realized I was about to go all "Hulk smash!" on the guy.

Him being a relative newbie, I opted for a different uke. Problem solved.

**gzk** · Posted On: 9/10/2012 10:00pm

Yeah, it's a joke. The school they're at is Nexus in Coburg, Melbourne, Australia. Murat Karadenizli, a Pedro Sauer BB, is the head instructor (not in OP's vid). They're a very legit competition school. The brown belt with the shaved head is Kit Dale, a Peter de Been student who does pretty well in competition.

**flammable** · Posted On: 9/19/2012 6:43pm

its a joke.

**Mr.Miyagi** · Posted On: 9/19/2012 7:10pm

Originally Posted by flammable

its a joke.

They were SERIOUSLY joking, jeez.

**Israfel** · Posted On: 9/19/2012 7:41pm

the only joke around here is your posting

**LesbianSeagal** · Posted On: 9/20/2012 12:40am

Originally Posted by slamdunc

When I do a demonstration, I ALWAYS outline the steps and levels of compliance. I'm getting to a story, so bear with me.
This is pretty much my thought on the scenario.

When I was with the sheriff’s office, one of my extra-duties was community service. I was assigned to do a one-hour program for the local office of the US Forestry Service. Their contingent was thirteen females and three males; for some reason, even the males were required to attend this training geared toward female evasion and escape. As I was giving my thoughts, I said something like ‘it doesn’t matter how many krotty belts you have, the bottom line is you do what you have to do in order to survive’.

The supervisor was adamant that he be my attacker, and I outlined CliffDOG’s levels of resistance. This guy was 6’- 4” around 245 pounds; neither completely fit, nor a lard-ass, and seemed like a nice enough fellow (I’m 6’ – 1” 170). On the initial rear-grab (bear-hug), he snatched me up and flailed me about like a rag-doll; so much for 10%. I actually had to head-butt and groin-grab just to break free.

I ended up with the cartilage between three of my ribs being turned into dust. If I hadn’t had my body-armor on, I’d have been really fucked.

I later learned from the staff there that this guy is an ass-hat and is a TKD Black Belt. Apparently, I offended him by making the comment about belts not being a factor in the real world. I would really enjoy run into this guy in a different setting; I’d take a DQ just to get to kick him square in the sack.

Geez, I would have sued him. Hackbart vs. Cincinnati Bengals.
A demo is not a carte blanche to **** someone up. Nothing is.

**gregaquaman** · Posted On: 9/20/2012 9:05am

Originally Posted by jnp

This may be a work, but many of us who instruct have run into the "nightmare uke".

I was trying to demo a move at a throwdown several years ago for someone who asked to see it. The guy who I picked as my partner could not understand the concept of minimal resistance. After trying to initiate the move three times and encountering 100% resistance every time despite explaining the need for compliance, I realized I was about to go all "Hulk smash!" on the guy.

Him being a relative newbie, I opted for a different uke. Problem solved.

I have a regular partner that will go off reservation from time to time. I have bitch slapped that guy hard