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  1. mike321 is online now

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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlun View Post
    Well I will say I have seen real poverty that = that of the slums of TJ on this side of the border.
    I have three families living a studio apartment in the bad part of town. These same people didn't even have a refrigerator. Also couldn't afford to have running water as in water shut off with no chance of getting it turned back on in the foreseeable future.
    Lets not fool ourselves we have do have truely poor people. I have known people who have had to skip meals because the 10 cents a packet ramen was out of their budget.
    "You have three families" are you landlord or social worker? I am taking your comment to mean absolute poverty is not gone from US but I don't think your trolling. Please clarify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Two interesting things about Mitt Romney I learned just today.

    #1: He now likes certain parts of Obamacare and won't "repeal the whole thing" as he promised when he was nominated, breaking his first campaign promise before voting even begins.

    So he was against it before he was for it...boy isn't that phrase getting old. He just doesn't like that darned Individual Mandate...you know...the one that was his idea and worked well in MA. But at least now he's being a tiny bit more honest.

    #2: Mitt Romney loves growing the government so much, he plans to increase military spending by over 2 trillion dollars. So much for attacking Obama as a big government liberal.

    Typical GOP. If we were still at war, this might make sense. We're drawing down two wars.

    Maybe Mitt should read some Sun Tzu to understand why unsustainable military spending can lead to the strangulation of the state.

    He's probably too busy ready Macroeconomics for Dummies.

    So if he sticks close to tea party agenda you won't vote for him, if he moves away from tea party you criticize. Aren't you pleased with item #1? #2 I agree that military does not need to grow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodlun View Post
    I am pretty sure we screwed ourselves with our own greed. Bubbles form and burst because assholes that don't know what they are doing go into markets that they don't understand, and derail the market. It happens all the freaking time every thing where someone thinks that they can go in and make a quick buck without learning all the nuances.
    My neighbor was a loan officer fired by Countrywide (LA office) for refusing to write bad loans. She was told write 'em or you're out of here. Ethically she couldn't do it. And everyone knew they were bad, Mozilo (Pres) called his own loans toxic (to say nothing of Warren Buffett's 2002 warnings, calling the trading of loan debt, credit default swaps, "financial weapons of mass destruction"). Bloomberg isn't a radical...? http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=aMocyrTi.YiA There was a feeding frenzy; the enormous profits from dealing debt spurred corrupt behavior. It is true that there were some mandated loan regs set by the feds, but people always want to acquire property, and banks offering 110% loans with out income verification is insane. What is scary is that the "reforms" are bullshit and credit default swaps are still being traded, with no regulation. If you want to be confused at a higher level http://moneymorning.com/2011/06/28/c...d-our-warning/ One real scary event was last month Warren Buffet pulled >$8 billion of municipal debt out of the credit-default swaps insuring biz - if muni go down, we are really fucked. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...630604118.html
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    Citation please. If numbers true who are these people. If lowest 11% income then holes in safety net. If people with higher income then safety net not large enough. Or receivers of income not acting responsibly. Details matter.
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    I'd say that we probably the fattest hungry people in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike321 View Post
    "You have three families" are you landlord or social worker? I am taking your comment to mean absolute poverty is not gone from US but I don't think your trolling. Please clarify.
    I meant to say I have seen 3 families living.
    There is quite a bit of real poverty in the US you have to go looking for it because we do a damn good job of segregating it other than your vagrants.
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    So if he sticks close to tea party agenda you won't vote for him, if he moves away from tea party you criticize. Aren't you pleased with item #1? #2 I agree that military does not need to grow.
    That's just the thing...criticizing a President or politicians in general is OK. That's my job as a citizen.

    But claiming the standing POTUS is the Third Antichrist here to change America into Soviet Russia and claiming he's secretly violating the Constitution to pleasure himself every night...stop that, if you ever want a vote from a moderate like myself.. That's all. Play tough, but fair.

    The GOP is my by reckoning in about their fifth year of this "America is Doomed, Lenin's Ghost is Coming to Steal Your Children's Trust Fund!" bullshit.

    I am pleased as a peach that Mitt Romney, who has a chance of winning the U.S. Presidency, isn't as completely batshit crazy as Chuck Norris. Otherwise, his first decision in office might be to make Chuck his Secretary of Defense and then the whole world is completely fucked.

    Maybe he's realized that reason and honesty are actually valued and expected of American presidents. Now if only he'd open up his fucking taxes so we can see if he puts his money where his mouth is when it comes to honesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    Maybe he's realized that reason and honesty are actually valued and expected of American presidents. Now if only he'd open up his fucking taxes so we can see if he puts his money where his mouth is when it comes to honesty.

    /thread
    It doesn't matter if he himself is reasonable if he is beholden to the Koch brothers and a base of bat **** crazy people. Unless you know he only wants to spend 4 years in office, I don't think 4 years will be enough for him to get a ROI for all of his own personal money he has spent so yeah its no good.
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    Wishful thinking for a politics thread!

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