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  1. DuckofDeath is offline

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    Be HEALED in the name of Jeezus!!!
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    "Here. . .lemme show you how your chi works. You just stand there and meditate. I'll throw a punch at you. No, don't worry. It won't even reach you. Trust me. You won't feel a thing. I promise. Ready?"

    "Oops!"

    "Hey, sit him up and let's get the f*ck outta here!"



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    PS: for chokes we used to sit 'em up and atemi the back. KO? I dunno.
  3. Robertok78 is offline

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    Meex so I wasa right about the Kodokan procedure for choked-out people? I can't find the procedure in my old Judo manuals, but Im very sure that is exactly how its done.
  4. Kempocos is offline

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    4/22/2004 11:26am

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    NOTE THE DILLMAN SIGN. The guy is stunned in the way most guys who take a well placed shot to the head would be. Lets see them pull it off with the guy really diveing in at them.

    The rubbing of the neck is supposed to restore CHI energy, they do this wrong as well. According to TCM they should run the fingers down the spine.This shows why Dillman has doen a disservice to all who study Kyusho. To spare the board PM me with any Kyusho questions as to how to better apply the concepts without the sideshow of INSTANT KO
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  5. Robertok78 is offline

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    There, I knew it had to do something with the restoration of chi theory. Thanks :)
  6. Wounded Ronin is offline
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    The way that they always rub the guy's back for those looks like some kind of chi kung procedure or something. But, yes, as an earlier poster mentioned I think they're doing it wrong.



    But I really don't know anything about these 1 hit KO thingies at all. Furthermore, I've never seen them work outside of the dojo. Finally, the video #2 looks like a retarded counter to a shoot. Even if for the sake of argument the 1 hit KO from that could work it would still be tricky to pull off and it would amount to an all-or-nothing-and-get-taken-down technique.
    Last edited by Wounded Ronin; 4/22/2004 11:32am at .
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  7. Kempocos is offline

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    The Instant KO reuqires 3 strikes and it may mean a stun not out cold, they need to follow the yin - yang and element theory in TRADITIONAL CHINESE MEDICENE. and the strikes need to be delivered at the correct angle and direction and this is why they are not realistic in combat and only work on someone standing there waiting to be hit.

    Do they work in the DOJO to someone just standing there - yes

    Do tehy work in a real fight - have never seen one done while sparring or fighting.
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    Hmm.. that instant KO in vid number #1 looks pretty contrived.
    It may just be due to my lack of "INSTANT KO" experience, but that guy's strike looked a little soft to knock anyone out.

    Anyone here going to vouch for the validity of said technique?
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    4/22/2004 12:18pm

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    TCM strike like that do not need to be hard , I never vouch for vid clips only things I see first hand.
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    4/22/2004 12:23pm

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    Kempocos: The problem is, the neck muscles naturally tighten up, when a strike is coming at your face/neck area. As you say, this stuff may well be legit - but I've never seen a practical application. It's a little too (VULCAN NECK PINCH!! shift+1) for me..
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