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    Calling all hackers who have a conscience

    Something you may not know about me is that I help charities to raise funds EVERY DAY OF MY WORKING LIFE. It is an extremely rewarding job and I am thankful I have been given it. My role is to assist hundreds of small charities to raise funds online as a consultant/ account manager.

    Recently, in my daily duties researching my charities in the hopes of helping them build their online presence and donations through it, I noticed the Rwandan Orphans Assistance Response (ROAR Inc) website has been hacked. You can find the hackers details taunting people to "catch me if u can" at the charity's webpage: http://www.roarcharity.org/

    I was under the impression that hackers in Anonymous had a rule that hacking a charitable organisation was off limits. I understand they might not be a part of Anonymous, but their facebook page indicates some level of association. I am also aware that Anonymous has, in the past, enacted retribution on a hacker who did something similar to a charity webpage in the hopes of gaining acceptance into Anonymous.

    Granted, my knowledge is very limited on hacking.

    I don't know why I want to put this here, but I think it is a fucking dog act to hack a charitable organisation that is trying to good in this world.
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    Some people attack trade buildings, some kill thousands of their own people, some people **** sheep. The **** ain't right, but there's all kinds of sickos in the world. Such is life.
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    And what would you mean by this, Devil?

    Are you a hacker with a conscience?
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    Battlefields, I think what Devil is referencing is the stereotypical Anonymous//b/ response to a call for help against someone.
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    And what would you mean by this, Devil?

    Are you a hacker with a conscience?
    Time for me to be a pedant.

    I am a hacker. I have been a professional hacker since I was 18.

    A "hack" is an elegant solution to an inelegant problem. A "hacker" is someone who creates those solutions. Think half scientist, half artist.

    The term has unfortunately been co-opted by a group of people who are unfit to clean the keyboards of those who coined it. The original terms for people who break into systems were "crackers" or, if they did it for professional purposes, a "thief for hire."

    I shall not go into how I know these things, but suffice it to say that I knew some folks who knew some folks.

    Ninety percent of the idiots who do this **** are script kiddies standing on the shoulders of white hats. Their intrusion has probably left all sorts of fingerprints, what they are banking on is that the cops don't care enough to find them.

    So will I help? Not beyond advice. My best advice: Leave it to the cops.

    Why? Three reasons:

    (1) I won't help them without consent, and no professional organization with half a brain would let an unknown quantity like me scour their ****.

    (2) I'm not a professional when it comes to forensics. If I did find these guys, my testimony would be pretty impeachable.

    (3) The final 1 in 10 chance that the perpetrator is actually one of the few who is really, really good... well, you may be starting a fight you don't want.

    So yeah, it sucks, but leave it to the professionals.

    Looking at the result, I'd guess it's some sort of redirect attack. They should bitch at their hosting provider (I doubt a not for profit would have their own site hosted). That's just a guess though.

    BTW, Battlefields, good for you with what you do. Fundraising is a bitch in this economy (my fiancee works in the non profit sector as well). Best of luck to you.
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    As I said, I don't know much, or anything about hacking. I wasn't asking anyone to do anything, ****, I was careful while I wrote the post because I thought, "what if someone saw this and decided to hack my ****? Better not ask anyone to do anything about it" or, "don't make a call to action on bullshido lest they get hacked".

    I'm not asking anyone to go after them. I can see the passive inference I have made in the title, though, as I've mentioned before, I suck at titles. I let the charity know straight away and they are doing what they need to do.

    It's actually an interest thing for me, a world I do not know, so thanks for your insight, JohnKenner. I know there are some other pros on here, so I was hoping for some learned opinions as well. It just amazes me that there is a culture of "boredom" that causes people to **** with people who help people.
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    Something else you need to understand about Anonymous is that they're not really homogenous, there's no centralized leadership, rules or goals. The Anonymous that attacks website A may be totally different from the Anonymous that attacks website B.
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    And what would you mean by this, Devil?

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    Some people attack trade buildings, some kill thousands of their own people, some people **** sheep. The **** ain't right, but there's all kinds of sickos in the world. Such is life.
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