*Spoilers* Strikeforce: Rousey vs. Kaufman - Aug 18, 2012

**Devil** · Posted On: 8/19/2012 1:29pm

Originally Posted by BKR

You don't even know Ronda, really.

See, you have bought into the whole MMA circus. Swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. Try a little cognitive dissonance.

Uh, no I don't usually have Thanksgiving dinner with her. Still awaiting my invitation. I know the same things about her that 99.9% of MMA fans know about her, which is what she says in public in front of a camera or microphone. And she comes off as a crass bitch.

**PizDoff** · Posted On: 8/19/2012 4:51pm

Ronaldo Jacare's latest fight in Strikeforce

**Vince Tortelli** · Posted On: 8/19/2012 5:29pm

Originally Posted by judoka_uk

Not sure where all the Ronda critics go, now that she's beaten the champ and the top contender in 1 round.

Something something big fish in small pond, blah blah Tim Sylvia as the UFC Heavyweight Champion, etc. etc. Gina Carano and Cris Cyborg, ad hominem male chauvinism misogyny?

The above is only a outline, I leave it to my fellow critics to fill in the specifics.

**1point2** · Posted On: 8/19/2012 10:31pm

Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli

Can't argue with Ronda's success but as far as I can tell, "Good groundwork for a judoka" is about the same as "good takedowns for a...jiu jitsuka?/Bjjer?/dirty buttflopper."

I agree on all your other points, but unless you're kidding (which you do frequently to excellent effect!) I think you should perhaps reexamine this concept. Repeatedly armbarring and pinning the physical specimens of elite judo is a thing.

More importantly, many judoka have lackluster groundwork because it's not their game. It was very much Ronda's game. People knew she had the armbar, the refs were standing by to stand them up at a moment's notice, and she went home with a lot of elbows that used to belong in a gi.

That said, I want Ronda to fight Cyborg while a nice and tough female BJJ black belt gets into MMA and paints a big red target on Ronda's back. Tate is a good grappler but we're talking about a different level here.

**BKR** · Posted On: 8/19/2012 10:56pm

Originally Posted by Devil

I understand completely what I was applying the logic to. Nevertheless, I reached an unpopular conclusion that could've been correct, but was not. Enjoy your groupthink.

You do this stuff unconsciously don't you? I mean, throw a straw man out there like I pass gas after a bowl of pinto beans with onions and couple of beers.

Amazing, truly amazing. My dirty desert camo hunting/fishing hat is off to you.

**BKR** · Posted On: 8/19/2012 10:58pm

Originally Posted by Devil

Uh, no I don't usually have Thanksgiving dinner with her. Still awaiting my invitation. I know the same things about her that 99.9% of MMA fans know about her, which is what she says in public in front of a camera or microphone. And she comes off as a crass bitch.

Really, why don't you just join her fan club? You can use a fake name, we won't tell anyone <wink>.

**Neo Sigma** · Posted On: 8/19/2012 11:05pm

Nice counter from Jacare there. After Rockhold pissing and moaning about Silva grabbing shorts and "not acting like a champion", and then grabbing the cage in his next fight, I hope Jacare smashes his face in when he gets his rematch.

**Gremlin37** · Posted On: 8/20/2012 12:31am

lovin ronda!

**Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs** · Posted On: 8/20/2012 4:58am

Has anyone found the Tate vs Kedzie fight?
I only saw the 3rd round and that looked like an entertaining fight!

Found it on "all the best fights"

http://www.allthebestfights.com/mies...ikeforce-2012/

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 8/20/2012 5:23am

Originally Posted by goodlun

I don't know if anyone in the current talent pool does. I do think it will be interesting once we see her up against a true ground fighting specialist.

She armlocked a BJJ blackbelt in 25 seconds in her first pro fight.

Hat tip PSB.