8/08/2012 3:16pm, #11
Thanks for all the feedback thus far, guys.
EDIT: I suppose one of this thread's purposes is to make carry feel more "normal," having consistently lived with people who are against it (my living situation will be different in the very near future).
8/08/2012 3:32pm, #12
- Join Date
- Mar 2006
I'm not questioning your discipline. Just giving my thoughts on the negative aspects as requested.
8/08/2012 4:51pm, #13
8/08/2012 5:33pm, #14
Good thread. I am planning to get my CHL as soon as funds permit and I like the info provide by those of you who already carry.
8/08/2012 7:21pm, #15
- Join Date
- May 2007
- Lafayette, IN
2. Whenever I'm outside my home and legally allowed to do so. Inside my home, there's almost always a firearm within easy reach. If I've already been carrying, there's a high likelihood that it's still right where it was in my holster.
3. When I'm not allowed to.
4. Typically a full-sized single-stack 1911. SOB in a Crossbreed holster.
5. I play pool less. Like, not when I'm carrying outside my or a friend's home. Pants wear out a little faster due to the barrel rubbing about an inch or so above the inside corner of my right pocket. Other than that, pretty much nada. I have a feeling that if I were to get something smaller in a Crossbreed I wouldn't notice it at all.
As far as an adjustment period goes, this is definitely true. It's mostly psychological. At first you'll be very self-conscious of the fire arm. You may have to adjust how you dress to avoid printing. It doesn't really belong here but since I'm talking about clothes and the like... You'll have to practice your draw a million times or so in order to make it second nature. Ranges also generally frown on this.
6. Tell them immediately. I've noticed that A) LEOs greatly appreciate it when you inform them that you're carrying and B) LEOs tend to treat you with more respect. Obviously, these will vary greatly from one area to the next depending on local law enforcement's general attitude toward civilians carrying concealed. But really... it helps to make them feel better. Every stop they've got to be wondering if this is the one where some random asshole starts taking pot-shots at them. That kind of thing is stressful as hell and is the reason that so many soldiers coming back from Iraq have PTSD despite having never really seen combat. They've spent a year or more just waiting for a roadside bomb to go off every time they leave post. If you freely inform them that you're armed and aren't acting like a toolshed you've pretty much also informed them of your non-intent to be the asshole who starts shooting at them
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8/08/2012 8:14pm, #16
8/08/2012 9:43pm, #17
"Silent Thunder Fusion." A lot of the members over on the 1911 forum swear by the Milt Sparks "Versa Max 2."
For now, I open carry when I'm out at the ranch and use a homemade shoulder holster that is kind of like an improved M3.
Once funds are available, I'd like to have the above rig made for me out of leather with a thumb break and a built in mag pouch a little above the right chest pocket level and running down the shoulder strap as opposed to across it as pictured. Sorry if this last is a bit of a derail.
8/08/2012 9:45pm, #18
- Join Date
- Mar 2006
Okay, Crossbreed ordered for my SigPro. I hope I don't like the ************ because at $80 a pop after shipping I'll spend a fortune outfitting myself for all my pistols if it's a winner. Also, a 4-6 week wait time is pretty damn long. On the other hand, I'll forget about it before then and have a cool surprise when I get home from work one day.
8/09/2012 6:44pm, #19
I have done some work comparing potential guns for carry, and I thought I'd post it here in case anyone found it interesting.
First, I've made a ranked list of estimated free recoil energy using the calculator on handloads.com (my 1911 is included as an exemplar, based on 230gr Golden Saber)—I searched their load database for loads roughly matching the factory ammo I would carry.
Carry Pistol Free Recoil Rankings (Weight in Pounds) 8/9/12 1911: 6.94ft. lbs. (2.4) XDMc 9mm: 4.29ft. lbs. (1.75) M&Pc 9mm: 5.54ft. lbs. (1.35625) G26 Gen4: 6.08ft. lbs. (1.234375) Taurus 709: 6.32ft. lbs. (1.1875) Kahr CM9: 7.56ft. lbs. (0.99375) XDMc .40: 8.01ft. lbs. (1.75) XDMc .45: 9.37ft. lbs. (1.6875) M&Pc .45: 9.65ft. lbs. (1.6375) M&Pc .40: 10.24ft. lbs. (1.36875) G30 SF: 10.62ft. lbs. (1.488125) G27 Gen4: 11.36ft. lbs. (1.234375) G36: 12.58ft. lbs. (1.256875) Kahr CM40: 12.68ft. lbs. (1.10625)
Size Comparison 1
Here is another angle to show thickness:
Size Comparison 2
The boxes which aren't colored are there purely for size comparison; I don't plan on getting any of them.
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8/11/2012 12:37pm, #20
Having put yet more thought into it, I'm realizing that a gun suitable for pocket carry would probably be quite unpleasant to fire (in my perspective). I am thinking about compromising size, weight, and deep concealment for capacity and easier/more accurate shooting, hence the Gen4 GLOCK 19 carried IWB in either a Galco KingTuk or a Galco Summer Comfort.
Apart from the improved grip capabilities provided by the larger frame, the increased magazine capacity is my primary motivation for considering this new tack—for two reasons:
- In Combat, My Accuracy Will Suck—therefore, every round in the magazine increases my chances of survival.
- I Will Be Scared Shitless—hence I will pull the trigger until the magazine is empty and then a few more times before I recognize that fact. I need as much time as possible between empty magazines.
If this strikes you as misguided for whatever reason, please make your opinions known.
Bonus point: I am pretty sure I'd get my Glock from Glock Meister with the Meprolight Amber/Green sight option.