Is barenkuclee that brutal really?

[Mr. Machette]

Small incidents are quite common, major pitched battles are an annual event

"Ghettos is the same the world over..."
-Jim Kelly as Williams

[ermghoti]

*Editited for more boobs

I could beat off any two of those girls at once.

[doofaloofa]

I could beat off to any of those girls at once.

Fixed

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ANOTHER DOCUMENTARY ON BARENKUCLEE

I'd seen some of this one last week on HD TV (SBS here in Aus), the violence is full on made me cringe at times. The kids fight went on longer than it should have. There was one drunken fight where they show a guy getting glassed with a bottle. From what I recall there was something about a machette attack too but I didn't watch that bit.

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Fixed

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Is Barenkuclee anything more than boxing techniques without gloves?

The following goes into great detail over how to strike without damaging your fists but doesn't look like any of the fights I'd seen in other videos.

Instructional: Irish Fighting techniques. 40minutes.



Would have been good if they could show these techniques actually in use.

[RurikGreenwulf]

Is Barenkuclee anything more than boxing techniques without gloves?

The following goes into great detail over how to strike without damaging your fists but doesn't look like any of the fights I'd seen in other videos.

Instructional: Irish Fighting techniques. 40minutes.



Would have been good if they could show these techniques actually in use.

Then we also have Rio heroes

[Dr_Awesome]

Ok, well, please forgive me for being a little late to the party on this thread, but just in case anyone still wants the science broken down, I covered this topic in my science-and-martial arts blog here:

http://theamazingdoctorawesome.blogs...lusion-of.html

The 30 second version is:
Gloves reduce energy transfer, but increase momentum transfer.
Energy transfer is responsible for localized tissue damage, but momentum transfer (in the right place) is responsible for brain damage.

So there is a bit of a trade off, but personally, I would pick brain safety.

[Tranquil Suit]

How does that apply to headgear?

Also, MMA gloves vs boxing gloves?

[Dr_Awesome]

How does that apply to headgear?

Also, MMA gloves vs boxing gloves?

The headgear question is a good one. I think I should do a whole separate entry for that because I'm going to need to test and measure a few examples first. -the question is, does the extra mass help you more than the the extra distance from the point of rotation hurts you? I'll have to figure it out.

As for MMA vs boxing gloves, I believe the hand protection is similar (I am basing this statement on my own experience, not data), so we expect the same increase in momentum transfer there.

For MMA gloves, the surface area is smaller, and the foam is not as thick, so we would expect to see more superficial tissue damage with MMA gloves (free fingers also apply here).

The only other real difference between boxing gloves and MMA gloves is the relative weights of the gloves. This would mean more momentum transfer from a boxing glove for a beginner, but for a trained fighter, the difference would be less than 5%.

So, putting all that together, MMA gloves would put you at greater risk for localized tissue damage, with only a small reduction in the likelihood of brain damage. Please remember that as I say this, I am only talking about the impact from the glove when you get punched. The rules and behaviors in each sport are completely different, so a scientific view of the glove is not even close to sufficient to make a general statement about the risks of one sport vs another.