8/07/2012 3:13pm, #41
8/07/2012 4:21pm, #42
8/07/2012 7:45pm, #43
8/07/2012 7:53pm, #44
Bader didn't get knocked out intentionally. This man trains very hard and he's not an idiot. He was ranked #9 in the world before fighting Machida. Machida won because Machida is awesome, not because Bader sucks.
8/07/2012 8:00pm, #45
I said before that I think people judge Bader too harshly. I think people judge fighters in general too harshly. People **** talk about the most talented and hardworking people in the world like they're idiots because they lose to the best. Of course we all know better in hindsight. Bader knows better in hindsight. He's more upset than anyone else that he let Machida fool him.
8/08/2012 9:50pm, #46
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8/08/2012 10:08pm, #47
8/09/2012 2:01am, #48
I wasn't bashing on Bader, I really like him as a fighter, I really wanted to see him just open up more as I love watching him fight! Something that looked a bit more like a gameplan to defeat Machida's counter pressure style.
I was disppointed that I didn't get to see Bader go beast mode in the fight, as a consumer of entertainment; it was still an entertaining fight I just enjoy longer fights with two fighters I like to watch fight, if this is still making sense....Daniel: I don't know if I know enough karate.
Miyagi: Feeling correct.
Daniel: You sure know how to make a guy feel confident.
Miyagi: You trust the quality of what you know, not quantity.
8/09/2012 4:32am, #49
I'm not talking **** about Bader or calling him an idiot, nor is it 20/20 hindsight to say you shouldn't go straight at a great counter-puncher like that. He got frustrated because his corner wasn't giving him any way to win the fight, not because Machida is a magician.
8/09/2012 4:26pm, #50
Might some bright light answer a question for poor benighted me? Given the level at which Bader trains and competes, what, oh what, was he doing with his left hand when he tried, that last time, to close and trade with Machida? It comes out like a pawing attempt, then--without Machida throwing anything downstairs--loops downward, leaving his face totally in the open.
Was it a feint of some kind? I have some difficulty imagining Machida falling for a feint like that, if that's was was being attempted. I have just as much difficulty believing that Bader or anyone in his camp would imagine it either.
A jab? With the hand like that? Right. Moving right along.
A parry--with the hand all the way out in front and with nothing thrown by Machida necessitating a parry? Right. Next.
An attempt at a grab? No not neither--not from a wrestler of Bader's calibre.
Did Bader think he had an underhook-in-the-making? See previous comment.
Did he drink some kool-aid and think looping the hand downward like that would somehow add power to his attempted right?
Can one completely forget the phrase "protect yourself at all times" at that level of competition?
Seriously, I'm at a loss. Somebody watch that KO and please tell me what Bader was doing, trying to close with his left hand looped down like that, leaving his face wide open.
Thanks in advance.