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    Palm heel or fist to the face?

    What do you think is the better basic move to use on the street? In the ring, of course use your punches! You have gloves for a reason, but for your own protection, what do you think?

    As far as I can tell, palm strikes are powerful enough to knock a guy out, but not as powerful as a fist. But they are also safer on the wrist, and allows you to strike more areas without worry.

    On the other hand fists are very natural to most martial artists due to sparring, and arguably have more knockout power. Especially if you are a boxer, but without those gloves on, the power transmitted to your fragile hands could mess you up.

    Personally, It seems palms are the better choice, but I still find it hard to naturally default to them over punches.

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    It depends I would just go with elbows to the face and maul the body with closed fists

    I think a Kyokushin karateka would have more conditioned fists (more knucle push up, more bare fisted punching the bags, etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RurikGreenwulf View Post
    It depends I would just go with elbows to the face and maul the body with closed fists

    I think a Kyokushin karateka would have more conditioned fists (more knucle push up, more bare fisted punching the bags, etc)
    I'm not even arguing over the effectiveness of knees, elbows, hammer fists and body punches. the hammer fist is probably my favorite move. And yeah, karateka are notorious for their conditioning, but most martial artists don't go through the same thing. From what I can tell, it's mostly iron palm in kung fu and kyokushin karate workouts.

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    You dont have to depend on only one kind of strike you can jab with closed fists to have impact and speed and the use the heavier strikes with an open hand

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    Fists I have had no luck with palm heels
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    Fists if you condition your knuckles and wrists. Knuckle push ups are good for this, also hitting pads/mitts without gloves helps. Although, I have seen a dude get knocked out with an almighty bitch slap. Now that was epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanassassin View Post
    What do you think is the better basic move to use on the street? In the ring, of course use your punches! You have gloves for a reason, but for your own protection, what do you think?

    As far as I can tell, palm strikes are powerful enough to knock a guy out, but not as powerful as a fist. But they are also safer on the wrist, and allows you to strike more areas without worry.

    On the other hand fists are very natural to most martial artists due to sparring, and arguably have more knockout power. Especially if you are a boxer, but without those gloves on, the power transmitted to your fragile hands could mess you up.

    Personally, It seems palms are the better choice, but I still find it hard to naturally default to them over punches.
    Why limit yourself to just one? OH, and search function noob:

    The palm Heel Thrust Discussion Thread
    The open hand (Palm heel)
    Self-Defense crash course - to punch or palm heel?
    Effective hand strikes?
    Palm strikes - do they work?
    palm strike
    What is the optimal palm strike form?(I busted my knuckles)
    Open hand vs closed fist?
    Article: Won't you Bust Your Hand?
    Effectiveness of non-fist hand techniques

    just for starters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab my fist View Post
    Fists if you condition your knuckles and wrists. Knuckle push ups are good for this, also hitting pads/mitts without gloves helps. Although, I have seen a dude get knocked out with an almighty bitch slap. Now that was epic.
    facepalm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    facepalm
    faceslap

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