Fedor Retires

[Shawarma]

I don't think so, Odacon. It's extremely consistent with erezb's usual standard of posts.

[bobyclumsyninja]

You guys get trolled way too easy, and it's not even subtle.

If only that were so.

i think Feudor was an over rated fighter. He was pampered by organized crime families in Russia, his fights where hand picked for him, and truth be told i wont be shocked to hear they were fixed too. Only now we can see that he isn't actually such a perfect fighter after all, he drops his hands when striking, confident of his chin...well either something happened to that chin or he isn't all that he was said to be. people said that if he would just drop some weight he would fight fighters his own size for a change, well they are also much quicker as Dan showed us. Any way, he is over.. he can make some more money fighting freaks and has beens i guess, a fight with Randy could be nice. Maybe even chuck liddle would want a chance.

Responses at the time, on the thread?

Shut the **** up.

Seriously are you really this dumb or is this an act?

Fedor beat the big names during career. Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman, Tim Sylivia, Arloski, Nogueira (who beat Dan Henderson twice!)

Bottomline you don't know what the **** you are talking about.

He is. IMO he is one of the biggest morons on Bullshido.

It's still STFU!

Is this guy for real?

[alex]

it would be nice if for people like erezb we had a rule, where if your iq is tested at lower than 60 you have to drink a bottle of bleach each time you give your opinion on anything

[Jim_Jude]

I <3 this thread

[bobyclumsyninja]

Gotta admit though, Feudor vs liddle would have been good ;]

[Hiro Protagonist]

[ADM]

it would be nice if for people like erezb we had a rule, where if your iq is tested at lower than 60 you have to drink a bottle of bleach each time you give your opinion on anything

I second this notion

[erezb]

I think the dude is overrated!!!! yes he won against fighters with names, like Cro, but the same guy comes to the UFC and what happens??? The same thing that would have happened if Feodor had the balls to actually go and fight the best that gathered in the best organization. Also, take Arlovsky who is a great striker with a glass jaw, until the desperate overhand Feodor landed he totally fucked him up! He got overconfident and fucking leaped in the air..
I have to say again because you have a tendency to ignore that part of my statements that he is indeed a good fighter, i still think he had plenty of "easy" fights, hand picked for him by his managers that did a great job in building a beautiful fighting streak. And the fight with Tim Silvia looked to me suspicious, obviously if it was easy to prove the phenomena wouldn't have been so popular in boxing. Did i say all his fights were fixed and/or easy? NO.
You give me names of fighters that he beat, but i don't see in those names any of the top five UFC heavy weights.
Like all of you i saw the fight against Big Foot, and thought two things: 1. Feodor is a fucking Bull Terrier. 2. Big Foot is going to rule the Heavy Weight Division with an Iron fist, no one can challenge him after he easily defeated the so called best pound for pound and best heavy weight fighter in the universe. Than the mighty big foot stepped into the octagon and what? nothing...he got smacked relatively easy by one of the best fighters out there.
Feodor is overrated, and he wasn't pitted against the best of the best.
After saying my peace on that, i still think there are a few fights i would want to see him in.
Feodor VS Rempage should be awesome. I think Feodor vs the iceman could have been great too for the fact the iceman is totally out of it. And vs the Spider obviously!!!

[bobyclumsyninja]

You give me names of fighters that he beat, but i don't see in those names any of the top five UFC heavy weights.

Let's have a look:

From: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f44/hi...2004-a-975549/

May 16, 2001
HEAVYWEIGHT 205 lbs. and up (93 kg and up)
1. Coleman, Mark 155
2. Couture, Randy 131
3. Rizzo, Pedro 112
4. Vovchanchin, Igor 110
5. Fujita, Kazuyuki 85
6. Nogueira, Rodrigo "Minotauro" 84
7. Herring, Heath 52
8. Overeem, Valentijn 44
9. Kerr, Mark 38
10. Telligman, Tra 23

July 17, 2001
HEAVYWEIGHT 205 lbs. and up (93 kg and up)
1. Coleman, Mark 156
2. Couture, Randy 135
3. Vovchanchin, Igor 114
4. Rizzo, Pedro 111
5. Fujita, Kazuyuki 91
6. Nogueira, Rodrigo "Minotauro" 81
7. Herring, Heath 55
8. Kerr, Mark 40
9. Barnett, Josh 36
10. Telligman, Tra 30

November 19, 2001
HEAVYWEIGHT over 205 lbs. and up (93.19 kg and up)
1. Rodrigo Nogueira 147
2. Randy Couture 138
3. Heath Herring 102
4. Mark Coleman 101
5. Josh Barnett 87
6. Pedro Rizzo 82
7. Igor Vovchanchyn 61
8. Kazuyuki Fujita 29
9. Mario Sperry 25
10. Ricco Rodriguez 12

June 11, 2002
HEAVYWEIGHT over 205 lbs. and up (93.19 kg and up)
1. Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira 159
2. Josh Barnett 142
3. Heath Herring 120
4. Randy Couture 114
5. Pedro Rizzo 85
6. Mark Coleman 79
7. Ricco Rodriguez 64
8. Igor Vovchanchyn 51
9. Mario Sperry 15
10.Semmy Schilt 8

Pride 23
Heath Herring -180
Fedor Emilianenko +140

October 15, 2002
HEAVYWEIGHT (205 - 265 lbs.)
1. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (160)
2. Josh Barnett (140)
3. Ricco Rodriguez (120)
4. Heath Herring (112)
5. Randy Couture (94)
6. Mario Sperry (58)
7. Pedro Rizzo (54)
8. Fedor Emelianenko (27)
9. Igor Vovchanchyn (17)
10. Semmy Schilt (16)

Pride 25
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira -180
Emelianenko Fedor +140

Heavyweight:
1) Fedor Emelianenko (16-1-0)
2) Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (21-2-1)
3) Josh Barnett (14-1-0)
4) Mirko Filipovic (9-1-2)
5) Tim Sylvia (16-0-0)
6) Andrei Arlovski (6-3-0)
7) Heath Herring (23-9-0)
8) Mark Coleman (13-5-0)
9) Wesley Correira (13-5-0)
10) Travis Wiuff (29-4-0)

May 2004
Heavyweight
1. Emelianeko Fedor - 99 Points (9 first place votes)
2. Minotauro Nogueira - 85 Points
3. Tim Sylvia - 82 Points
4. Josh Barnett - 74 Points (1 first place vote)
5. Mirko Cro Cop - 72 Points
6. Andrei Arlovksi - 69 Points
7. Heath Herring - 42 Points
8. Pedro Rizzo - 31 Points
9. Semmy Schilt - 25 Points
10.Frank Mir - 18 Points

November 2004
HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION - (210-265 lbs.)
1. Emelianeko Fedor - 98 Points (8 first place votes)
2. Minotauro Nogueira - 92 Points (2 first place votes)
3. Mirko Cro Cop- 72 Points
4. Frank Mir- 67 Points
5. Josh Barnett - 54 Points
6. Andrei Arlovksi - 52 Points
7. Tim Sylvia - 47 Points
8. Sergei Kharitonov - 23 Points
9. Heath Herring - 17 Points
10. Justin Eilers - 15 Points

may 2005
Heavyweights
1. Fedor Emelianenko - 219pts (21 first place votes)
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueria - 181pts (1 first place vote)
3. Mirko Cro-Cop Filipovic - 175 pts
4. Andrei Arlovski - 156pts
5. Frank Mir - 110 pts
6. Sergei Kharitonov - 107pts
7. Josh Barnett - 60pts
8. Heath Herring - 37pts
9. Aleksander Emelianenko - 36 pts
10. Tim Sylvia - 34pts

September 2005
1. Fedor Emelianenko - 250pts (25 first place votes)
2. Antonio "Minotauro" Nogueria - 210pts
3. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic - 206pts
4. Andrei Arlovski - 178pts
5. Sergei Kharitonov - 153pts
6. Tim Sylvia - 87pts
7. Aleksander Emelianenko - 77pts
8. Fank Mir - 51pts
9. Josh Barnett - 44pts
10. Fabricio Werdum - 26pts

January 2006
1. Fedor Emelianenko (Russia/Red Devil Sport Club) - 350, 35 First Place Votes
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Brazil/Brazilian Top Team) - 303 Points
3. Andrei Arlovski (Belarus/Pitbull Team) - 278 Points
4. Sergey Kharitonov (Russia/Russian Top Team) - 234 Points
5. Mirko Filipovic (Croatia/Cro Cop Squad Gym) - 183 Points
6. Mark Hunt (New Zealand/Oceania Super Fighters Club) - 172 Points
7. Tim Sylvia (USA/Team Extreme) - 159 Points
8. Aleksander Emelianenko (Russia/Red Devil Sport Club) - 132 Points
9. Fabricio Werdum (Brazil/Cro Cop Squad Gym) - 46 Points
10. Jeff Monson (USA/American Top Team West) - 32 Points

March 2006
1. Fedor Emelianenko (Russia/Red Devil Sport Club) - 350, 35 First Place Votes
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Brazil/Brazilian Top Team) - 301 Points
3. Andrei Arlovski (Belarus/Pitbull Team) - 279 Points
4. Mark Hunt (New Zealand/Oceania Super Fighters Club) - 212 Points
5. Mirko Filipovic (Croatia/Cro Cop Squad Gym) - 185 Points
6. Tim Sylvia (USA/Team Extreme) - 176 Points
7. Alistair Overeem (Holland/Golden Glory) - 166 points
8. Sergey Kharitonov (Russia/Russian Top Team) - 114 Points
9. Aleksander Emelianenko (Russia/Red Devil Sport Club) - 68 Points
10. Fabricio Werdum (Brazil/Cro Cop Squad Gym) - 41 Points

September 2006
Fedor Emelianenko (Unanimous #1, 38 Votes)
Mirko Filipovic
Josh Barnett
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Tim Sylvia
Andrei Arlovski
Aleksander Emelianenko
Mark Hunt
Fabricio Werdum
Jeff Monson

Jan 2007
HW
Fedor Emelianenko
Mirko Fillipovic
Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
Josh Barnett
Tim Sylvia
Andrei Arlovski
Fabricio Werdum
Mark Hunt
Brandon Vera
Aleksandr Emelianenko

October 2007 Rankings
Heavyweight
1. Fedor Emelianenko (146 pts - 11 number 1 votes)
2. Randy Couture (135 pts - 4 number 1 votes)
3. Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera (121 pts)
4. Josh Barnett (87 pts)
5. Gabriel Gonzaga (87 pts)
6. Tim Sylvia (72 pts)
7. Andre Arlovski (66 pts)
8. Cheik Kongo (43 pts)
9. Mirko Filipovic (19 pts)
10. Fabrizio Werdum (15 pts)
10. Brandon Vera (15 pts)

jan 2008
Heavyweight
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Randy Couture
3. Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera
4. Tim Sylvia
5. Josh Barnett
6. Gabriel Gonzaga
7. Andre Arlovski
8. Cheick Kongo
9. Mirko "CroCop" Filipovic
10. Fabricio Werdum

Feb 2008
Heavyweight
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Noguiera
3. Randy Couture
4. Josh Barnett
5. Tim Sylvia
6. Andre Arlovski
7. Fabricio Werdum
8. Cheick Kongo
9. Gabriel Gonzaga
10. Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic

Sep 2008
Heavyweight
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Josh Barnett
4. Randy Couture
5. Andrei Arlovski
6. Fabricio Werdum
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Gabriel Gonzaga
9. Ben Rothwell
10. Mirko Filipovic

Jan 2009
Heavyweight
1. Fedor Emelianenko
2. Josh Barnett
3. Andrei Arlovski
4. Frank Mir
5. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
6. Brock Lesnar
7. Randy Couture
8. Gabriel Gonzaga
9. Tim Sylvia
10. Cheick Kongo

[bobyclumsyninja]

Feodor is overrated, and he wasn't pitted against the best of the best.

Here are some of his opponents records/rank at the time they fought.
vs. Crocop (16-2-2) ranked #3
vs Semmy Schilt (22-10-1) ranked #10
vs. Big Nog (19-1-1) ranked #1 (first fight)
vs Big Nog (24-2-1(1) ranked #2 (second and third fight)
vs Mark Coleman (13-5) ranked #4 (first fight)
vs Mark Coleman (15-7) ranked #7 (second fight)
vs Kevin Randleman (15-7) ranked #8
vs Kazuyuki Fujita (9-3) ranked #5
vs Tim Sylvia (24-4) ranked #5
vs Brett Rogers (10-0) ranked #9
vs Werdum (13-4-1) ranked #7
vs Bigfoot Silva (15-2) ranked #9

Considering Big Nog sat at #2 for years and years, unless they wanted to do Fedor/Nog #'s 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, etc, he wasn't going to get a #1 vs #2 matchup very easily after they'd already done 3.

Arlovski was top ten also, when they fought, Barnett was highly ranked also, when they almost fought. There's been no ducking (some sources had Silvia at #4, not #5. Remember his "downfall" came after Fedor took him out).

You're saying it as though it must be true in some sense, without actually knowing what the situation was, at the time. If you take the time to actually look, you'll understand, that you didn't understand.

That's what someone might mean by "UFC fan, not MMA fan".