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  1. DerAuslander is offline
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    "Kickboxing", unless we're specifying "no low kick" or American or whatever rules, just means full contact kicking and punching. So any striking art should look like "kickboxing".

    The difference is in how the various Chinese boxing styles play out within that kickboxing format, such as leitai or sanshou. Styles are more sublime & indicative of various strategies & tactics than they are truly separate systems.

    A Choi Li Fut fighter will emphasize roundhouse strikes in comparison to a Wing Chun boxer who is going to prefer angular footwork and forward pressure. A Taiji boxer is going to prefer clinch situations and throws. A Long Fist boxer will emphasize kicks and working at a longer range.

    All of them should look like boxers, and if you're not learning kung fu as a boxer, then I hope you enjoy cultural performance art.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist View Post
    yes, there are. you do realize that they have different rule sets, goals and concepts, right?
    And jackets. That alone makes a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhi108 View Post
    "Kickboxing", unless we're specifying "no low kick" or American or whatever rules, just means full contact kicking and punching. So any striking art should look like "kickboxing".

    The difference is in how the various Chinese boxing styles play out within that kickboxing format, such as leitai or sanshou. Styles are more sublime & indicative of various strategies & tactics than they are truly separate systems.

    A Choi Li Fut fighter will emphasize roundhouse strikes in comparison to a Wing Chun boxer who is going to prefer angular footwork and forward pressure. A Taiji boxer is going to prefer clinch situations and throws. A Long Fist boxer will emphasize kicks and working at a longer range.

    All of them should look like boxers,
    and if you're not learning kung fu as a boxer, then I hope you enjoy cultural performance art.
    Thank you. Hopefully, this makes better sense.
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    This thread has probably the best summary explaining how styles that all train full-contact sparring still differ in significant ways but apply similarly in alive settings. Martial Arts = solved now.
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    I bought the book some years ago. The one article that sticks in my Head is "The Myth of Shaolin".

    Seemed about right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Hardon View Post
    I bought the book some years ago. The one article that sticks in my Head is "The Myth of Shaolin".

    Seemed about right.
    It's not.

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    I know there isn't any ground fighting in shuai jiao. I meant in approaches to landing the same throws like the shoulder throw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gttintin View Post
    I know there isn't any ground fighting in shuai jiao. I meant in approaches to landing the same throws like the shoulder throw.
    yeah, well to start with there's no "shoulder throw" in judo, and before you go on a rant about how there is, and it's called "seoi nage" and how you found a picture on the internet or in some book that labels it as such, *stop*. it's not a shoulder throw.

    shuai jiao uses completely different concepts and principles than judo does. it has totally different rules. it has totally different goals. some of the throws may look similar, but due to the differences in rules, goals, concepts and principles, they are *not* the same throws.

    if you want to study shuai jiao, do it. if you want to study judo, do it. they are not the same thing.
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    "Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
    "When I was a little boy, I had a sailor suit, but it didn't mean I was in the Navy." - Mtripp on the subject of a 5 year old karate black belt
    "Without actual qualifications to be a Zen teacher, your instructor is just another roundeye raping Asian culture for a buck." - Errant108
    "Seriously, who gives a **** what you or Errant think? You're Asian males, everyone just ignores you, unless you're in a krotty movie." - new2bjj
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    They're visible on Tapatalk...but not here. Wierd.
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