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  1. Eddie Hardon is offline

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    Blimey. I didn't read this thread until now...

    Just a thought. Is the OP the whole story? If it is, then fair enough, although I noticed that the story changed from 'he killed him with one punch' to "he beat him to death with his bare hands". This probably also means kicks, stamps etc, an altogether bloodier scenario than that likely from a single punch...

    If the OP is not the whole story....

    Who knows? It might be that there was a personal history of antagonism between the 2 men and it got out of hand.

    This is not intended to be provocative, it's just that the CNN report was, er, 'sparse'. Just an unsupported piece of video.

    Out.
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    Well you are more than welcome to add new developments that happened.
    I guess a one punch scenario can kill, it is just highly unlikely, people are much harder to kill. I think he continued to strike well after the man was incapacitated, that is why he could be facing charges, and that is why it is an interesting article. If he used a gun or some weapon other than his hands, something that caused instant death, he could use the diminished capacity defense like the lawyer and i suggested, however it will be harder the longer the attack lasted. We all deaply simpethy with the father (not the hysterical troll bate poster, the father from the OP), so inspite the fact he is clearly in the wrong here from the dry law point of view, we all want to see a bend in the rules for his sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erezb View Post
    he is clearly in the wrong here from the dry law point of view
    How is it that you came to this conclusion? Is it really that clear? I don't recall the story providing enough information to make anything clear.

    I'm still waiting to hear what the Grand Jury came up with.

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    Corner and paint. Cut and dry.

    Here's an article with more detail:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85E1D720120615
    The father, whose name has not been released because he has not been charged with a crime, heard his daughter's screams and ran to a secluded area, where he "removed Flores from on top of his child and, in the process, inflicted several blows to the man's head and neck area," McMinn said.
    In court papers, Harmon said evidence found at the scene appeared to substantiate the father's account.

    "The man's pants and underwear were down and his genitals were exposed," Harmon said. "In addition, all of the physical evidence and several detailed witness statements corroborated the father's statement."
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    That pretty well clears it up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slamdunc View Post
    That pretty well clears it up.


    Indeed it does. Better than the CNN report, which was wholly inadequate.
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    So this ended in the exact way everyone expected it to, I assume.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/19/us/tex...html?hpt=hp_t2
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    Quote Originally Posted by P Marsh View Post
    So this ended in the exact way everyone expected it to, I assume.
    This is how I thought (and hoped) it would turn out. I sincerely believe that the prosecutor sent this case to the Grand Jury, knowing they wouldn't indict the father.


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    Quote Originally Posted by P Marsh View Post
    So this ended in the exact way everyone expected it to, I assume.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/19/us/tex...html?hpt=hp_t2
    Truth be told, due to the Trayvon Martin Case, we are going to see an upswing in Self Defense or Defense of Other cases going to a Grand Jury. It is called CYA.

    Yes, that's exactly what I expected.
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