European Jujutsu Jiujitsu Union and BJJ "dan"s

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 6/08/2012 9:08am

Originally Posted by CrackFox

It's been scribbled in with a ballpoint pen. Who cares how it's been spelled, it's not part of the original document.

Did you miss the preemptive nature of my post?

I can go get the 1,000 threads were a person shows up and say "OMG TMA NOT BJJ LOOK AT THE SPELLING."

this union can give BJJ "dan"s?

Again, it is in his OP and I am curious where the BJJ comment came form. You know, it is MABS, we get the article, video, screen shot, interview or whatever before they remove it from the web. So, yes, the spelling, even if it looks scribbled is a point of contention when the "boo-boo birds" and angry students show up.

**PointyShinyBurn** · Posted On: 6/08/2012 9:09am

Originally Posted by scipio

It also has 6th Dan scribbled on it in ballpoint. I don't know much about BJJ, but are there any 6th Dan's in BJJ in existance??

6th Degree black belts, yes, a few. They're not really called "Dans" in BJJ. This guy is clearly not one of them, but it's not clear to me where/if he's making this claim? Is this cert on his website or something? A quick Google doesn't find it for me.

**scipio** · Posted On: 6/08/2012 9:15am

Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn

6th Degree black belts, yes, a few. They're not really called "Dans" in BJJ. This guy is clearly not one of them, but it's not clear to me where/if he's making this claim? Is this cert on his website or something? A quick Google doesn't find it for me.

Thanks for that - I think that the OP might want to explain where this certificate came from and it what context. As mentioned is he claiming to be something he is not?

**Eddie Hardon** · Posted On: 6/08/2012 1:26pm

Clearly nothing to do with BJJ.

Minor point. Vernon Bell died a few years ago and the photo they have of him is that as used in his Obit written by Hanshi Terry Wingrave 9th Dan, and published in The Times.

Ronnie Colwell. Don't know him (no reason why I should) and he was, apparently, the senior instructor at the (Trad JJ) BJJA [British Ju Jitsu Association] before the major split. He himself trains more in Karate, as I understand it.

Nothing else to add. Sorry.

**Necroyunus** · Posted On: 6/10/2012 9:24pm

I am so sorry for the late feedback, I couldn't get online for some time.

I saw this when it was shared on facebook and a local forum for martial arts.

Here is a list of some teachers and representatives etc. and we can see his name as a "6th dan" but not really specified
http://oejju.webs.com/boardofdirectors.htm

There were some comments on the forum like:
"How odd, this guy is a very famous person on JKD. It is unbelievable that he would do something like this"

Also heard he does gumdo (don't know what this is) and "shoot boxing" (which are again not seen on his profile)

Anyways, I shared this with you guys to learn if this organization does anything like this normally or not. And maybe some of you guys know him in person.
Because if this thing goes viral later on internet, we better know who should we blame.

Thanks

**Gezere** · Posted On: 6/11/2012 2:56am

Originally Posted by Necroyunus

I am so sorry for the late feedback, I couldn't get online for some time.

I saw this when it was shared on facebook and a local forum for martial arts.

Here is a list of some teachers and representatives etc. and we can see his name as a "6th dan" but not really specified
http://oejju.webs.com/boardofdirectors.htm

There were some comments on the forum like:
"How odd, this guy is a very famous person on JKD. It is unbelievable that he would do something like this"

Also heard he does gumdo (don't know what this is) and "shoot boxing" (which are again not seen on his profile)

Anyways, I shared this with you guys to learn if this organization does anything like this normally or not. And maybe some of you guys know him in person.
Because if this thing goes viral later on internet, we better know who should we blame.

Thanks

Gumdo is Korean kendo.

Do you have a link to the FB page or forum this was shared on?

**hungryjoe** · Posted On: 6/11/2012 8:00pm

John C. Enger is listed as the 3rd Vice President. Below is a list of certificates from research into Enger's SMAU circle jerk organization.

Note: http://www.shinja.us/
Shinja Martial Arts University

Note: President
John C. Enger
Javier Galan Vaquez (European Jujitsu Union) (10th Dan Certificate of Grade) 2009
Javier Galan Vaquez (Kaizen Ryu Aiki-Jitsu Kai) (10th Dan Certificate of Grade) 2010
Javier Galan Vaquez (European Jujitsu Union) (Gratitude Certificate USA Delegate) 2010
Javier Galan Vaquez (European Jujitsu Union) (Certificate of Honor) 2010
Javier Galan Vaquez (European Jujitsu Union) (Certificate of Appointment as Vice President) 2010
Javier Galan Vaquez (European Jujitsu Union) (Certificate of Gratitude) 2011

**Necroyunus** · Posted On: 6/11/2012 8:19pm

Originally Posted by Gezere

Gumdo is Korean kendo.

Do you have a link to the FB page or forum this was shared on?

For facebook page, it is forbidden in the country that I live in at the moment but it was not really a group page or something, a person shared it. I don't know if you can still see it and my vpn is only on ipad, don't even know how i can send it to you.
However I just saw another message saying that this is his "japanese jiu jitsu" certificate. However that "brasilian" is still there...dunno...

I can send you the forum link though. But it's not in English.
http://www.mucadelesporlari.com/show...-quot-dan-quot

**Lebell** · Posted On: 12/03/2012 3:42am

I've got several JJJ certs and diplomas, and ive never seen that the names on there would be filled in vertically.
Also Alan Thronton rang an alarmbell, if im not mistaken he is some douche from the UK with a 10th dan in whatever, I've seen a video of this guy, secret knowledge for his insiders and what not, it was just really weird.
He even wore a samurai outfit at one ocasion.

There isnt really one big JJJ federation, maybe there are some in name, but in practicality its usually national federations that crossmeet usually in France, once a year.