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  1. Chili Pepper is online now
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     Style: Siling Labuyo Arnis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goddels View Post
    When explained to me, the Tapado strikes were designed to strike the opponent's weapon and then "drainpipe" their way down the shaft to strike the hand if hand contact was not made by the first strike.
    Yeah, he demonstrates a little of that first, having Crafty holding a tapado stick, and then correcting the angle he's holding it at, so that his strike wouldn't funnel into Crafty's hand.
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     Style: Kali, Silat

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    We use the Illustrisimo 12 angles mentioned above by Wikidbounce. I prefer this style as the focus is on the angle, not the part of the body.

    An angle 1 (Forehand diagonal down strike) can be performed to the temple, jaw, clavicle, arm, chest. Anywhere on the line.

    Diesel_TKE, what kind of FMA do you do. The names for your angles are all Japanese, have you incorporated FMA strikes into JMA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by k_raben View Post

    Diesel_TKE, what kind of FMA do you do. The names for your angles are all Japanese, have you incorporated FMA strikes into JMA?
    It's not an FMA per se. It is a blend of a few different styles. But JMA was my coach's primary art. Dog Brother system is very prominently incorporated throughout.
    Combatives training log.

    Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

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     Style: JJJ/TSD/MT/BJJ/TLA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    In the arnis system I do, the basic 12 are:
    1- diagonal forehand to left temple
    2- diagonal backhand to knee
    3- diagonal backhand to right temple
    4- diagonal forehand to knee
    5- vertical downward to crown
    6- sok sok/thrust to torso

    the first 6 are the primary strikes, but there's also
    7- horizontal backhand across throat
    8- dragging forehand diagonal downward across torso
    9- backhand to knee
    10- horizontal forehand across throat
    11- backhand vertical whip
    12- backhand thrust
    Oh, hey, those are the twelve I learned a long time back. What system is that?
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     Style: FMA, dumbek, Indian clubs

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    Quote Originally Posted by LThornton View Post
    Oh, hey, those are the twelve I learned a long time back. What system is that?
    Well I study Babao arnis, which is sort of a mix of a couple systems. My teacher learned Batangas baston first from his dad, and went on to study a bunch of martial arts, including Cacoy Doce Pares and Kali under Mel Lopez, but honestly I'm not exactly sure where the particular 12 basic strikes we use came from.
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    6/26/2012 1:11pm


     Style: JJJ/TSD/MT/BJJ/TLA

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    Neat. Babao arnis is what I learned (for a short time, ten years ago). My instructor never explained anything about the history of it to me. Actually, I think the only place I saw the name of the system was on the flier that got me in.
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     Style: FMA, dumbek, Indian clubs

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    Quote Originally Posted by LThornton View Post
    Neat. Babao arnis is what I learned (for a short time, ten years ago). My instructor never explained anything about the history of it to me. Actually, I think the only place I saw the name of the system was on the flier that got me in.
    Interesting. Who was your teacher? I study under Grandmaster Narrie, so I've probably seen your teacher's name on the list on the wall in his garage.
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     Style: JJJ/TSD/MT/BJJ/TLA

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    Edward Cabarles. Funnily enough, at the time, I never learned his last name, but I tracked him down a couple months ago, and he's going to come out to my school as a guest instructor in a couple weeks, which I'm pretty excited about.
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     Style: FMA, JJ, Judo

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    At my Pencak Silat/Kali classes we have 11 basic angles.

    Silat:

    Angle 1 – cut/strike down left shoulder to right hip
    Angle 2 – cut/strike down right shoulder to left hip
    Angle 3 – cut/strike upwards left hip to right shoulder
    Angle 4 – cut/strike upwards right hip to left shoulder
    Angle 5 – cut/strike across the stomach/ribs on left side
    Angle 6 – cut/strike across the stomach/ribs on right side
    Angle 7- straight thrust pointing upwards into the breadbasket
    Angle 8 – reverse thrust to heart
    Angle 9 – turning/reverse thrust to base of the neck on right side
    Angle 10 – cut straight down to top of the head, coming straight down to hit floor to kneeling position
    Angle 11 – cut back up and out into chambered position through the groin

    These are done with the stick for us. However, with a knife, we made some changes that seemed to make more sense to us at my school. For example, Angle 10 became a thrust to the throat while grabbing the back of the neck, and Angle 11 became either a straight upwards thrust into the perennial region or became another thrust for the femoral artery on the leg.

    My teacher always says though, as his teacher told him, the final one is more of an "exercise angle" to perform for precision. In reality of sparring if you drop to that kneeling position you are at risk to begin eating a barrage of strikes, from not only the sticks but also the knees, elbows, etc,, depending on how mad you probably made that person you hit with the stick :gtroll:

    I hope these make sense, don’t hit me if they don’t…..:YUNO:

    My question is do any of you change your angles in terms of the weapon you wield in the drill? The 11 I listed at the top were done with a stick or long blade. For a knife I find that the two modifications work better (atleast for me.)
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    7/10/2012 1:26pm


     Style: fma

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    Quote Originally Posted by drizzt777 View Post
    My question is do any of you change your angles in terms of the weapon you wield in the drill? The 11 I listed at the top were done with a stick or long blade. For a knife I find that the two modifications work better (atleast for me.)
    Angles, no. Targets, yes.

    My inclination is that if you have to change your angles when you change weapons, then the angles are too specific. Then again, I suppose that comes down to the purpose of angles in your system.
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