Thanks for this reply- explained alot.
Originally Posted by Permalost
I agree with what you said.
I have been training with Scott Babb (the founder of Libre) for a year. I have been looking for a more modern edged weapons system to integrate in my training. I found it in Libre.
Here are a few of the principles of Libre:
1) Libre is about attacking. It’s not about countering or trying to move around an opponent’s defense — It is about tearing through the opponents defense.
2) Strategy in Libre involves reading an opponent’s stance, guard, and position and exploiting it. The practitioner also utilizes footwork, feints, and line-of-sight to break through the opponents defense.
3) Defense in Libre comes through utilizing footwork to control distance, evade, bait, and offset the opponent. Blocks and/or parries are rarely used.
4) Libre isn’t about “dueling”; it is about “fighting”. Libre doesn’t try to pick an opponent apart; it is intended to rip them apart in the fastest and most violent ways at the practitioner’s disposal. That is where the term “Libre Fighting” comes from. It isn’t a traditional martial art, it isn’t a “system” or “style”. It is, at its root, simply “fighting.”
5) Libre doesn’t limit itself to “techniques.” We study ways to use anything around to our advantage. This includes using ones clothing, or the opponent’s clothing, to blind, choke, or distract the opponent. Using whatever is within reach as a projectile. Spitting, biting, pinching, hair pulling, and head butting. Smashing the opponent’s skull into a wall, curb, or table. Libre practitioners learn to improvise to prevail.
6) Libre is not geared towards the use of heavier agricultural blades. It is geared towards the use of a common folding knife that one might carry on the street. That is why heavy emphasis is placed on reinforced slashes and attacking ONLY vital or crippling areas. The smaller “street blade” simply is not capable of causing tremendous amounts of damage as easily as a heavy agricultural blade. That is why no superfluous cuts or stabs are used. Every strike with the “street blade” must do as much damage as possible.
7) Libre is meant to grow. It is meant to complement whatever style of fighting the user carries. Libre should ultimately mold to the individual, the individual should not mold to Libre. Practitioners are encouraged to make Libre their own, to use what they have in conjunction with Libre.
This system integrates perfectly in to any type of fighting style you come from, and it a grate complement to any type of weapons retention type situation you may find yourself in. I live and work down in Mexico in the law enforcement field, this type of training is a great thing to know.
Scott has a book wrote about his life in the Martial arts and talks extensively about the bull **** artist out there, it’s a great book and I recommend it highly. It’s called “Finding Libre”
Originally Posted by edwood7
It turns out that one of my arnis training partners actually trains with these guys on the side. He's a cop too. Haven't seen him since I learned that, though.
How do you train this? In sparing are you encouraged to bite, pull hair, skull smash, etc? If so is the waiver you sign before training as long as Homers Illiad?
Originally Posted by edwood7
I think you mean patterns because ALL ARTS contain techniques.
There are a lot of bumps and bruises after a good blender section (the blender is what we call the sparring sessions in confined spaces), the class are not at all what you would expect if you come from a traditional martial arts background.
Originally Posted by judojeff
We are encouraged to wear the type of clothing we regular were to class to keep it real, and even when training in a specific technique, we will keep our partners honest in there execution.
Damn I have been away from Bullshido for a while....Libre is a good system for sure and anybody that is in the San Diego area I suggest you go check out yourself. I am in Indio area near Palm Springs so you can stop by anytime.
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