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    Hmmm, I would've guessed that Jones had a posse with someone who could drive.
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    When you are over the legal limit of .08 there is no guarantee you will feel it. Driver beware! Think about what you drank not how you feel. This maybe the issue. Any info on what the test result was?
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    From the fighters.com article:
    The fighter’s mother is reported to have bailed him out of jail after the incident.
    That alone should guarantee that he'll never make the same mistake again.
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    What a fucking dumbass, is he actually trying to lose fans??
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    Quote Originally Posted by OZZ View Post
    Just another case of a celebrity / person in the public eye being held to the same standard as everyone else.
    Except for some reason, we seem to treat said celebrities / people in the public eye as if their sins are even more unpardonable just because they are rich.
    Stupid act on his part, yes.
    But the media and general public's overreaction to these things is equally stupid in my opinion.
    He's an athlete, not a saint.
    I agree with what people are saying, I think I just failed at my point (too tired to coherently put together my own thoughts); OZZ does a good job at what I was trying to make a point of.

    And of course, if you ever thought you were over the limit, don't drive at all, find another way. He had the money to buy a robot car to drive him (probably from Google) so he could have for sure.
    Last edited by Mr.Miyagi; 5/21/2012 8:32pm at .
    Daniel: I don't know if I know enough karate.

    Miyagi: Feeling correct.

    Daniel: You sure know how to make a guy feel confident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexJohn View Post
    That little gesture provided him with the ability to show reasonable doubt to the jury. A doctor would later find that chapstick makes no difference to your blood alcohol (no ****), but it was too late. A perfect example of a tragedy. The family gets no justice for their baby, I hold myself personally responsible for their pain and the drunk gets to move on with a loophole victory.
    I know nothing about the law but to me that seems absurd. Was there any scientific literature which contained statistics indicting chapstick may cause a false high reading? Or proposed chemical mechanism for how chapstick could affect the reading? If not I do not want to live on this planet any more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antonyneal View Post
    I know nothing about the law but to me that seems absurd. Was there any scientific literature which contained statistics indicting chapstick may cause a false high reading? Or proposed chemical mechanism for how chapstick could affect the reading? If not I do not want to live on this planet any more.
    No sir, that is why he was able to prove reasonable doubt. We couldn't prove otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexJohn View Post
    No sir, that is why he was able to prove reasonable doubt. We couldn't prove otherwise.
    Isn't the word "reasonable" in there to prevent this? Don't judges have power to stop attorneys from creating "unreasonable" doubt?
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    I wouldn't say Jones is a bad person based on one DUI. Just inexperienced and a bit dense. Now if he gets more DUI's, then he's more than a "bit' dense.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike321 View Post
    Isn't the word "reasonable" in there to prevent this? Don't judges have power to stop attorneys from creating "unreasonable" doubt?
    Huh, I didn't know you were that young. That an extremely naive thing to say by the way.
    Shut the hell up and train.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnp View Post

    Huh, I didn't know you were that young. That an extremely naive thing to say by the way.
    Not young or naive, just curious if we have an idiotic system or idiotic judges.
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