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    Bruce Lee thrown out of WC because...

    Not sure if this was the right section to post this, but I really want serious responses on this.

    According to this, Bruce Lee was thrown out of his parent art for behaving like a nether region:

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc MacYoung
    Flip side of that coin, I have two grandmasters in my lineage that threw Lee out for being an asshole. And a sifu (whose busted up face tells about his street fights experience) who was a childhood friend of Lee's. He told a different story about Lee's 'legend' as a streetfighter in Hong Kong. Yet Lee's fame in the West is so great that he is thought of a the great mystic warrior and these guys --who did a lot more live fire **** (including surviving wars)-- are unknown.
    from http://en.allexperts.com/q/Self-Defe...-arts-west.htm

    Can any MA historian shed some light on this? Was Lee's behavior considered rude in the Orient but acceptable in the West, or was he really out of line?
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    I don't need to be a historian to see a bullshit "sport vs. street" rant when I see one. Chunners are just salty that Bruce Lee is more popular then they are and has publicly stated that the chun is a waste of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    I don't need to be a historian to see a bullshit "sport vs. street" rant when I see one. Chunners are just salty that Bruce Lee is more popular then they are and has publicly stated that the chun is a waste of time.
    I gotta agree. I mean, does the legend of Bruce Lee overrate the abilities and prowess of the actual man? Probably. But that doesn't really make anything else in that article true. I mean, it's got all the hallmarks of traditional BS.

    Secret arts and techniques that weren't shared with common students (aka No True Scotsman fallacy)? Check!

    Unverified stories about unnamed "masters"? Check!

    Unsupported claims about "real killers" that would destroy "sports" guys in the street? Check!


    So, yeah. You can pretty much dismiss everything in that article.
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    the least effective way of attacking another human was emphasized -- punching. Yeah, stop and think about it, if punching is all that effective then why do boxing and MMA matches last so long?

    A punch by itself ain't ****. The real injuries from a punch are usually because the guy loses his balance and hits his head.
    This is the best part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    This is the best part.
    These are the words of a man that has never been hit in the face by a trained dude wearing 4oz glove. Or 16oz gloves. Or any gloves.
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    According to a little known wing chun master I know, Bruce Lee was actually kicked out of wing chun because whenever he crossed hands with a real wing chun man, his structure would collapse as he tried to cover his crying eyes with his hands while mincing away at the thought of being hurt. Or so the legend goes.
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    I thought Lee 86'd himself form the chun when he created JKD. The backlash from chunners was just sour grapes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    I don't need to be a historian to see a bullshit "sport vs. street" rant when I see one. Chunners are just salty that Bruce Lee is more popular then they are and has publicly stated that the chun is a waste of time.
    I don't give a **** about the argument the article's making. You just started an OP-ED without verification of facts. What if the facts were true? What if they were false? The argument has no bearing if what is asked is about a certain fact.

    I am asking about the HISTORY. Go start a thread if you have an issue to the theme of the article.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Machette View Post
    I thought Lee 86'd himself form the chun when he created JKD. The backlash from chunners was just sour grapes.
    That's what I read about too. Then this tidbit came up. If his reason for separation from his WC group was retconned due to JKD, then something's up. MacYoung's sources are on scrutiny here.
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    Are you kidding me dude? You actually want to have a serious discussion about the so-called history presented in this farce of an article? A so called history that is anonymous and completely unsupported and that contradicts Lee's own side of what happened?

    Good luck.
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    If 99% of something is definitely full of ****, I'm not going to take the 1% that only is most likely **** seriously.
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