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    Thanks John so much, I have got Bas Rutten Dvd's and now I will get Gracie Combative DVD as soon as possible. We have mat and punching bag. One more thing we also have dogs but we don't have gun. It is very difficult to get a license for a gun in our state. But I will try to get a gun which don't need a license (but it only makes noise) as soon as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnKenner View Post
    The problem isn't necessarily Wing Chun as a style.
    Yes, it has been dead for awhile. It is why chunners, who train alive, tend to add boxing strategies to their art.

    Lee did practice it, but did cross train due to its limitations.
    Okay, let's clarify this small wording issue. He trained other arts after he was no longer training the chun. He cross trained multiple arts and pretty much left the chun alone. Just so it isn't misconstrued that he was training the chun and cross training at the same time.
    Last edited by It is Fake; 4/30/2012 1:10am at .

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    Thank you 'It is Fake' for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    He trained other arts after he was no longer training the chun. He cross trained multiple arts and pretty much left the chun alone. Just so it isn't misconstrued that he was training the chun and cross training at the same time.
    That is the way I understood Lee's training, this was also the case with Bas Rutten, whose base art was Tae Kwon Do (then Kyokushin). He had long since outgrown the TKD when he began kickboxing and later developed his ground game by training catch wrestling.
    Even if a base style is limited in its usefulness, it provides a foundation of sorts. For a chunner to acknowledge that his art is not a complete system is difficult. I spent years believing that Kenpo (EPAK) was the best, most effective, all inclusive style out there. I found out the hard way that it was not and started looking elsewhere (boxing, wrestling, etc.) to round myself out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Yes, it has been dead for awhile. It is why chunners, who train alive, tend to add boxing strategies to their art.

    Okay, let's clarify this small wording issue. He trained other arts after he was no longer training the chun. He cross trained multiple arts and pretty much left the chun alone. Just so it isn't misconstrued that he was training the chun and cross training at the same time.
    IiF is famous for being a pedant on this board, which is a way of saying he is usually correct.

    So yeah, basically, I was wrong on the interwebz. Not an unusual experience.

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