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They have helped you try and right the ship, why would we contact them to hear you spiel from a different person?
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I suggest you shut the **** up, learn how to read, answer the real questions, learn how to research, go practice your made up Martial Art and realize re-wording the same ****, over and over, doesn't make it any more true than Two months ago. What did you do, eat a bowl of logical fallacies and wash them down with Kiss-Ass flavored Kool-aid?
:Baww: Originally Posted by FYT
Look at you moaning and groaning now.The hood mentality is crippling disease, that attacks your nervous system. It makes you nervous of the system. Gangsters and hood rats are especially susceptible to this growth stunting mentality. The hood is where I'm from, but it's not what I am. The hood is where I'm from, but it's not what I am. --Keith David--Ice Cube
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Do not twist my words or misinterpret my intentions! Originally Posted by Vieux Normand
Anyway, I'll add some facts to the discussion. If by 'shin' one means 'new', then affixing that to 'kobudo' meaning 'old budo' is an interesting choice. Perhaps there is a series of M4 kata paired with the sword.
Given the context, that seems like the obvious dubious term, but who knows, maybe it was the shin of friendliness, or prophecy...which was why I asked.Last edited by DARPAChief; 9/29/2012 1:13pm at .
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Isn't representing a school something else then teaching people? You are saying that Mark and other students have mokuroku in the Sho Sho Ryu and Muhen Yongan Ryu but as far as I know this only shows that a certain level is achieved, not that you are allowed to teach others. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Originally Posted by FYT
If my translation of Google is correct the following link shows a scroll showing Sho Sho Ryu and Muhen Yongan Ryu techniques not from these schools but from the Dutch Bu Jutsu Academy. Given to 'Max Vromans' (I think a student) given by the family head of the Shin Tai Ryu (If I'm correct this is Mark Sterk).
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shintairyu.nl %2FNambuhan%2520Kobudo.html&act=url
So my question, is mr. Sterke creating its own scroll's with techniques of the Sho Sho Ryu and Muhen Yongan Ryu and given this as a reward?
And a other question, is mr. Sterken given his teaching only based on mokuroku?Last edited by backatya; 10/01/2012 4:09am at . Reason: posted link
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Very good imitation, now just consistently keep repeating the same answers until it is clear that they are the only answers. Originally Posted by DARPAChief
Also: Shin kobudo refers to deceased (last generation died) or broken lineages (like a student departing from a Koryu without legitimate licenses) of old martial arts traditions (kobudo) that people are trying to revive (new) if enough material is available.
Basically any martial art that's old..but not allowed to be considered Koryu.
http://www.budo-club-limburgerhof.de...-Ichi-Ryu.html
http://scottishfightingarts.webs.com...o-master-class
Yes a mokuroku shows that a certain level is achieved and up to THAT level, Mark and the others are allowed to represent these schools and instruct others with the consent of the Grand Masters in Japan. Originally Posted by backatya
When these students reach the level to be eligible for a mokuroku in those Arts (mastery of the techniques in that catalog).
Mark makes these scrolls as proof of their transmission.
(being a mokuroku holder himself and sanctioned to have a branch dojo where the Sho Sho Ryu and Muhen Yongan Ryu techniques can be taught outside of Japan.)
The student didn't study at the Sho Sho Ryu or Muhen yongan Ryu.
But he studied the Sho Sho/Muhen Yongan ryu TECHNIQUES at the Dutch Bu Jutsu Academy under Sterke.
(where the Koryu styles are taught outside of the Shin Tai Ryu)
"Max Vromans" is one of the first students that got these teachings passed on from Mark.
Should Max want to get a higher grading in these arts... he'll have to go to Japan.
What do you mean with the last question? a mokuroku is just a catalog of techniques, Why he got it, is because he travelled to japan to study at the schools for them since somewhere in the 80's.
So the Sho Sho and Muhen Yongan ryu techniques taught are ONLY the ones from the mokuroku stating what is ALLOWED to be taught by the holder. -
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You misspelled opinions. Originally Posted by FYT
How many years have you studied the Japanese language and are you fluent?Also: Shin kobudo refers to deceased (last generation died) or broken lineages (like a student departing from a Koryu without legitimate licenses) of old martial arts traditions (kobudo) that people are trying to revive (new) if enough material is available.
Basically any martial art that's old..but not allowed to be considered Koryu.
http://www.budo-club-limburgerhof.de...-Ichi-Ryu.html
http://scottishfightingarts.webs.com...o-master-class
Yes a mokuroku shows that a certain level is achieved and up to THAT level, Mark and the others are allowed to represent these schools and instruct others with the consent of the Grand Masters in Japan.
When these students reach the level to be eligible for a mokuroku in those Arts (mastery of the techniques in that catalog).
Mark makes these scrolls as proof of their transmission.
(being a mokuroku holder himself and sanctioned to have a branch dojo where the Sho Sho Ryu and Muhen Yongan Ryu techniques can be taught outside of Japan.)
The student didn't study at the Sho Sho Ryu or Muhen yongan Ryu.
But he studied the Sho Sho/Muhen Yongan ryu TECHNIQUES at the Dutch Bu Jutsu Academy under Sterke.
(where the Koryu styles are taught outside of the Shin Tai Ryu)
"Max Vromans" is one of the first students that got these teachings passed on from Mark.
Should Max want to get a higher grading in these arts... he'll have to go to Japan.
What do you mean with the last question? a mokuroku is just a catalog of techniques, Why he got it, is because he travelled to japan to study at the schools for them since somewhere in the 80's.
So the Sho Sho and Muhen Yongan ryu techniques taught are ONLY the ones from the mokuroku stating what is ALLOWED to be taught by the holder.The hood mentality is crippling disease, that attacks your nervous system. It makes you nervous of the system. Gangsters and hood rats are especially susceptible to this growth stunting mentality. The hood is where I'm from, but it's not what I am. The hood is where I'm from, but it's not what I am. --Keith David--Ice Cube
All I got is genes and chromosomes
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