Traditional Judo

**cualltaigh** · Posted On: 4/26/2012 7:01pm

Originally Posted by Eddie Hardon

Bizarre. The OP vid looks more like Trad Ju Jitsu...that knife defence is rubbish and would never work.

I was thinking the same thing, although a poor version of it. Although not the worst I've seen, the attacks were pretty limp (specifically noting the kick at 1:04 and overhead knife at 1:09) and the defences were probably mid-kyu level at best.

**Eddie Hardon** · Posted On: 4/27/2012 5:27pm

Originally Posted by bigstu31s

Anybody here ever rolled with Kevin Chan?

I recall watching him compete in the BJJ event at SENI a couple of years ago. He won his category. All genuine stuff.

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 4/27/2012 6:03pm

Originally Posted by Eddie Hardon

Bizarre. The OP vid looks more like Trad Ju Jitsu...that knife defence is rubbish and would never work.

Originally Posted by cualltaigh

I was thinking the same thing, although a poor version of it. Although not the worst I've seen, the attacks were pretty limp (specifically noting the kick at 1:04 and overhead knife at 1:09) and the defences were probably mid-kyu level at best.

That's what larper Judo looks like. Lots lunge punch/blocking nonsense followed up by throws of varying competency and realism.

**Gosai** · Posted On: 4/28/2012 12:04am

Honestly, I'm in no position to make judgements on an association, but since opinions are being brought up on one... I thought I might see if there are any on the one the dojo I'm currently training at is affiliated with.

United States Ju-Jitsu Federation
http://www.usjjf.org/home.htm

Primarily, my group seems to be under a pupil of this fellow here
http://www.usjjf.org/bio/RJarrett/index.htm

The volume of accolades has me a bit nervous given what you often see in the investigations forum.

Too newbish to make much of a judgement, however there's generally a good amount of randori and I was recently in a small group that went to a competition with a few other affiliated schools (Working on getting videos loaded, technology is my old arch-enemy.)

If this is an inappropriate hijack, I suppose I'll just petition a mod to seperate this into its own thread. While half-asleep this all made sense to me.

**BKR** · Posted On: 4/30/2012 5:00am

Originally Posted by g3ost

While researching martial arts I came upon this site http://www.traditionaljudouk.com/, this guy seems to teach traditional judo. It seems more like a martial art than modern sport judo.

This is the demo of the what he is teaching

Any thoughts about it?

Judging from the video you posted, I would not go there for instruction.

**vladoshi** · Posted On: 5/17/2012 7:12am

Could be using Aiki Jitsu orAikido movements with Judo. I am told that one of Kano's ace's up his sleeve at the historical competition versus Ju Jitsu was an Aiki Jitsu practictioner. Its about small circle movements as opposed to Aikido's big circles. Those hand locks look like what the guy who told me teaches. Its not bad thing, and looks like it could incorporate easily with judo.

**judoka_uk** · Posted On: 5/17/2012 7:15am

Originally Posted by vladoshi

Could be using Aiki Jitsu orAikido movements with Judo. I am told that one of Kano's ace's up his sleeve at the historical competition versus Ju Jitsu was an Aiki Jitsu practictioner. Its about small circle movements as opposed to Aikido's big circles. Those hand locks look like what the guy who told me teaches. Its not bad thing, and looks like it could incorporate easily with judo.

Given that there was no such 'historical competition' the story you were told is probably a porky.

None of that small circle bollocks is going to help your Judo.

**creativo** · Posted On: 5/17/2012 10:03am

Originally Posted by judoka_uk

Given that there was no such 'historical competition' the story you were told is probably a porky.

None of that small circle bollocks is going to help your Judo.

The competition he's referring to is probably the Police tournament of 1886.
See for example
http://judoinfo.com/saigo.htm