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    Quote Originally Posted by patfromlogan View Post
    1st Chief of Staff - Lobbyist for Goldman Sachs
    2nd - exec with JPMorgan Chase
    3rd - ran a hedge fund for Citi that bet The Correct on the real estate bust.

    Hmmm. Change I can't believe in.
    If you had the choice, what background would the people who filled those 3 positions ideally have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rivington View Post
    What a joke. What a sad pathetic joke. Destroy you—if anything on a bboard can even be said to be destructive, you're doing it just fine all by yourself. I showed polling info that Reps are more hawkish than Dems and independents and that Paul's position on military/defense turned off big hunks of Rep voters. Reps don't want a peace candidate—a term of art used by Paul and his supporters—and that's a plain fact.

    You're too stupid to know what "peace candidate" means. Whether you agree with it or not, that's the term being used to sell Paul's positions.

    You're so stupid you forgot that your own claim was that I was engaging in a liberal fantasy. I proved you wrong.

    You're so stupid you admit to extending my remark to mean something else, then object to when I point out the stretch.

    You're so stupid you then try to stretch the claim in the other direction—insisting that Paul is an "appeasement" candidate, to use an ideologically charged and content-free term.

    And then you dare tell me that I used poorly worded statements? What a useless moron you are. But this is great though—whenever you intervene in a politics thread, we have a couple of pages of you being a pathetic, petulant imbecile. In a fair world, I'd get a nickel a gander for showing off the Amazing Retarded Typist.
    Please, stop trying to flirt with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daddykata View Post
    Please, stop trying to flirt with me.
    Never!
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    Quote Originally Posted by judoka_uk View Post
    If you had the choice, what background would the people who filled those 3 positions ideally have?
    If it were my choice I'd go with Truck Nutz assembly line workers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by judoka_uk View Post
    If you had the choice, what background would the people who filled those 3 positions ideally have?
    If Financial background, maybe an official from bank of north dakota or a top performing credit union.

    Successful manufacturing execs could be considered.

    Large non profit exec that successfully kept overhead low at whatever charity.

    Lobbyists for non financial institutions.

    Previous speakers of the house.

    Military generals that dealt with logistics procurement and dealt with congress

    There is an amazing talent pool in this country. He had choices.
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    ^^Well yeah, if all the good ones were working on Truck Nutz backorders.
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    From what I can garner obama looks like he has his heart in the right place but the american political system nullifies the power of the president. He is merely a scapegoat- its fairly obvious the power in america is dominated by powerful lobby groups and the almight dollar. The only way someone can get into power is through donations and with no cap, the winner is generally whoever had the biggest backers. which then results in them being that companys bitch.

    its too late to unfuck the american political system at this point, and its decline is inevitable, as more and more trading partners start looking at places like china and india. americas economy is tanking, it has no real friends due to decades of starting wars and being team police america, and is run by greedy corporates. its like syndicate with less cool gadgets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by judoka_uk View Post
    but the Countryside Alliance enjoys not inconsiderable influence with the Tory party.
    The Countryside Alliance is the Tory Party. Why be coy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    From what I can garner obama looks like he has his heart in the right place but the american political system nullifies the power of the president. He is merely a scapegoat- its fairly obvious the power in america is dominated by powerful lobby groups and the almight dollar. The only way someone can get into power is through donations and with no cap, the winner is generally whoever had the biggest backers. which then results in them being that companys bitch.
    This is actually why I continue to support obama. I understand that in the current political system, progress is going to be infinitesimal. Until we get a public who is not so mercurial that we keep alternating red/blue, we're stuck in neutral.

    Just out of curiosity, what sort of health care does new zealand have and what would be the political reaction to a reversion to American near totally private insurance?
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    we have ACC for injuries, so basically in the case of injury you are treated for a nominal charge depending on what happens. This is basically a universal accident compensation service- if you break your leg you will be taken to hospital and fixed free of charge, even if you're a tourist.

    As far as healthcare, its a mix of public and private. if you are ill, you will be taken to a hospital and fixed for free- however with a public healthcare system like that its obviously not perfect, so there are waiting lists for transplants etc. there are private health firms available with health insurance policies, so people with more cash tend to go there.

    this is all funded by ACC levies that everyone pays, basically a tax. depending on what you do it may be higher- because i work as a personal trainer my acc levy is slightly higher than say an office worker, because im more likely to be involved in an injury.

    This also stops people from being sued for injury- ACC covers all injury etc, and you cant sue acc. if you run over someones foot, ACC fixes it.

    its a pretty good system overall, no complain of product.


    Nz would never take on americas fucked healthcare system. from everyone ive talked to from there, its total ****. but hey, we are also dirty liberal hippies here so we dont spend much on an army, leaves more for other stuff.
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