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    Bag work with sticks

    So, I saw this video that Lonely Dog put out about his strategy for hitting the bag with your stick. I liked a lot of what he did with the in and out movement. He has a cool set up for a tire to strike on.



    When I work my bag with the stick, I have one of those B.O.B. bags. I like it because I can work around it as well as in and out, like Lonely Dog does in his video.

    I was just wondering if anyone else does similar type work or different ideas when you do stick work on the bag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_tke View Post
    So, I saw this video that Lonely Dog put out about his strategy for hitting the bag with your stick. I liked a lot of what he did with the in and out movement.
    I like Lonely Dog because his build and strategy are close to mine. F'rinstance, I have the DB's Attacking Blocks DVD, but I never really liked the drill - I'm not likely to be driving someone back. Lonely Dog's Cycle Drills, on the other hand, work extremely well for me.

    His strategy for hitting the tire meshes with that too.
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    Nice video, I like the hanging tire. I use a wavemaster and actionflex clubs inside, and outside use durattan sticks on any handy tree.

    Having a target you can move around is really beneficial with the double sticks, switching siniwallis on the fly as your lateral movement dictates. This is a great way to "break free" from the patterns.
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    I like the video. I'm surprised he used very simple foot work though, same lead leg, straight in and straight out for the most part. I expected more angling and stance switching before I watched.
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    He is supposed to do some more videos so it may just be that he is building up to more. But this is the first foot work that I learned and use as my fall back.

    I like his cycle drills video also, I use that stuff a lot!
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    I agree with the concerns at the beginning of the video, and it's nice to hear people say that medio is a horrible place to be. Good drills if you like that style, but personally I dislike in-and-out movements.
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    Lonely dog's largo is outstanding. I've watched a bunch of his fights, and his covering of range, power, and slippery retreats are really good.

    I like the concept of using range and footwork when drilling the tire, and often do this myself. Combatively, it makes a lot of sense. I really liked his consideration of defensive retreats, and wholeheartedly agree with his points here. Shoot, I'd even take what he says a step further and say that many drills that stickfighters do could use more range variance.

    Purely for cardio and stick speed, I will sometimes grind things on the tire at medio, but I work on a swinging tire, and also aggressively work my checks if it swings toward me.

    The use of a static tire, particularly a wall-mounted one isn't optimal, but he may have done this due to space constraints. It allows you to work your explosive penetration from largo, but doesn't encourage much angling. A hanging tire, with some room to work around it is better for this, and will also challenge your targeting a bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RynoGreene View Post
    The use of a static tire, particularly a wall-mounted one isn't optimal, but he may have done this due to space constraints. It allows you to work your explosive penetration from largo, but doesn't encourage much angling. A hanging tire, with some room to work around it is better for this, and will also challenge your targeting a bit more.
    Yeah, that hanging tire he used at the very begining. I'm gonna try to set something up like that. Maybe from a tree out back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_tke View Post
    Yeah, that hanging tire he used at the very begining. I'm gonna try to set something up like that. Maybe from a tree out back.
    Lol I just saw this thread today. Our Thai boxing team uses these hanging tires to condition their shins but I decided to go to town on it yesterday.

    I don't think they were fully aware of the options.

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    Here is the next video that he posted. Pretty cool video. I especially like how there are people floating past them in the river. I know people are wondering what these guys are doing.

    We had a bunch of kids watching us in the park this week while we were training. They thought we were crazy.
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