4/24/2012 10:23pm, #161
Rules are rules, but the lines between what's allowed, and what isn't, aren't that thick.
If I had my way, everyone would fight at the weight they cut to, to be in that class. Weigh in right before you step in to fight, as well as the official "weigh in".
Not sure I like the openly doing steroids thing, or where that would go, but isn't IMO, the most unfair thing going on. Fighting a guy 20 lbs heavier than yourself, b/c he gradually dehydrated himself and then drank up after weigh in, kinda screws with the honesty of the weight class thing.
That said....DAMN YOU ALISTAIR!!!!! Fucked up a dream fight, for the ages. You did flatten Brock, a very satisfying thing, but ****, man.
4/25/2012 4:18am, #162
Having fighters fight at the weight they weigh in at is a fair idea, IMO, but potentially hazardous. Fighters wanting as big a weight advantage as possible will STILL weight cut like crazy for their fights and will end up fighting dehydrated and undernourished.
The current system is safer and will also lend for more entertaining fights - fewer featherweights gassing as superheavies in the first round.
4/25/2012 9:16am, #163
Would Jon Jones be winning like he is, if the 3 gallons of water he sheds in the lead up to the fight, couldn't be replaced the night before? IIRC a gallon of water weighs about 7 lbs.
I don't have a problem with big guys wanting to squeeze into lower classes, but let them fight where they cut to.
4/25/2012 9:19am, #164
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4/25/2012 4:33pm, #165
4/25/2012 4:42pm, #166
The NCAA changed the rules to the same day, and apparently disagrees with you.
In 1997, three collegiate wrestlers died within a six-week span because of extreme weight-loss techniques. All three were trying to lose weight by riding stationary bikes and refusing liquids; two were wearing rubber suits. As a result, the NCAA changed its rules regarding weigh-ins. Previously wrestlers weighed in the day before the tournament started; now they weigh in just a few hours before competing, giving them less time to recover from any extreme dehydration methods they may have taken to make weight.
4/25/2012 5:39pm, #167
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4/25/2012 5:56pm, #168
wrestling doesnt have the money involved in it compared to boxing and mma. throw the kind of money top level boxers and ufc fighters get into wrestling and youd have the same problem. not with everyone obviously, but enough for it to be, imo, a bad idea.
4/25/2012 8:02pm, #169
This is just what I want, as a fan. The present arrangement favors the younger fighters, who's bodies can still take the dehydration. If it were the rule, then responsible coaches would have to book fights in a guy's actual weight class, or be doing him/her a disservice.
That's just me, though. I'd have every fighter tested for every fight, and everyone fighting within the bounds of their weight class (unless it were openly a freak show fight...which I love - when it's extreme...see Genki Sudo vs. Butterbean).
5/05/2012 3:28am, #170