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    Taboo against hitting fallen oponent

    I was reading the Muay Boran rules and found even the rules were pretty simple (no eye gouging, groin strikes or hair pulling) hitting a fallen oponnent is prohibited, Now that in MMA and Vale Tudo hitting a fallen oponnent is so effective why old martial arts that allowed headbutting and such considered hitting someone on the floor a taboo?

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    Where are you reading those rules?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azatdawn View Post
    Where are you reading those rules?
    Sorry my mistake,
    here http://www.muaythaidesign.com/muayth...muayboranrules
    Last edited by RurikGreenwulf; 4/03/2012 3:53pm at .

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    He is asking what website, book, article, link or research you used to find these rules.

    He is not asking why you were reading them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    He is asking what website, book, article, link or research you used to find these rules.

    He is not asking why you were reading them.
    Damn I cant even read
    Thanks for the correction

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    My guess (and opinion) in real life situation a person who is on the ground (if you put them there) may not be considered a threat, legally. So the argument "self defense" becomes shaky. If the person is down, you can retreat to a safe place.

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    usually rules like this, entrenched as they may be in "honor" or "the rules" or whatever, are a big sign of civilian art (whether it is also practiced as a sport or not is beside the point). Combat or war styles have nothing against kicking downed opponents. In the West we see such an extreme in the "Bronco Kick"

    "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
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    Actually we allow it in kendo, but it has to be a continuation of the action that caused the fall. Not strictly comparable but an example from TMA.

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    Thanks for the input Jude, NeilG I know nothing about kendo save that is JMA about training with swords, but was a militar art before? so do you think that as Jude said the combat arts have strikes on the ground because of their lack of rules and so would Kendo have strikes on the ground?

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    Because fighting is traditionally about the show.


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