BJJ/MMA vs. Wing Chun, Sifu Replies

***battlefields*** · Posted On: 11/19/2012 1:01am

Oh it was. The collective national guilt was crippling.

**Budo_Brown** · Posted On: 11/19/2012 2:00am

Originally Posted by Azatdawn

Sounds rough.

I never used the term rough, hard, or anything of the nature. Forget about where I lived or how "rough" it is deemed. The point is I have a fair amount of actual fighting. Not sport or in a ring. I'm not claiming to be some sort of tough guy so please please don't overreact everyone. I don't need a bunch of smart ass remarks regarding how tough I think I am. I don't think I'm better or more hardcore than anyone. I just know myself abd what I am capable of when push comes to shove. I've been in situations that sucked and I had to fight. Period. It wasn't cool. I'm not bragging. It just it what it is. FYI ... I didn't grow up privileged. The army paid for the move. We lived in an apartment. We didn't live on base.

**BJMills** · Posted On: 11/19/2012 3:19am

Originally Posted by Budo_Brown

I never used the term rough, hard, or anything of the nature. Forget about where I lived or how "rough" it is deemed. The point is I have a fair amount of actual fighting. Not sport or in a ring. I'm not claiming to be some sort of tough guy so please please don't overreact everyone. I don't need a bunch of smart ass remarks regarding how tough I think I am. I don't think I'm better or more hardcore than anyone. I just know myself abd what I am capable of when push comes to shove. I've been in situations that sucked and I had to fight. Period. It wasn't cool. I'm not bragging. It just it what it is. FYI ... I didn't grow up privileged. The army paid for the move. We lived in an apartment. We didn't live on base.

Unless you're incredibly naive you have to be aware that going onto a martial arts forum and opening with a reference to your 'rough past' and many 'street fights' is bound to set more than a few bullshit detectors ringing. It's probably the oldest and least credible trope in the book.

Adding to that is the above post where you tell us on the one hand, forget you ever mentioned it, but on the other just accept that you can 'handle' yourself because of it.

It's one or the other, you don't get to have it both ways.

To address your original post, judo is good wing Chun is bad. Anything that trains without a fully resisting opponent is pretty much worthless. If you want a good striking art to compliment your judo try boxing, on top of being highly effective it is relatively cheap to learn. And if you really need some philosophy to go with it watch some old Ali tapes.

**Azatdawn** · Posted On: 11/19/2012 3:44am

Originally Posted by Budo_Brown

I never used the term rough, hard, or anything of the nature. Forget about where I lived or how "rough" it is deemed. The point is I have a fair amount of actual fighting. Not sport or in a ring. I'm not claiming to be some sort of tough guy so please please don't overreact everyone. I don't need a bunch of smart ass remarks regarding how tough I think I am. I don't think I'm better or more hardcore than anyone. I just know myself abd what I am capable of when push comes to shove. I've been in situations that sucked and I had to fight. Period. It wasn't cool. I'm not bragging. It just it what it is. FYI ... I didn't grow up privileged. The army paid for the move. We lived in an apartment. We didn't live on base.

Where exactly did you live? Which city?

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 11/19/2012 8:30am

Originally Posted by Budo_Brown

I never used the term rough, hard, or anything of the nature. Forget about where I lived or how "rough" it is deemed. The point is I have a fair amount of actual fighting. Not sport or in a ring. I'm not claiming to be some sort of tough guy so please please don't overreact everyone. I don't need a bunch of smart ass remarks regarding how tough I think I am. I don't think I'm better or more hardcore than anyone. I just know myself abd what I am capable of when push comes to shove. I've been in situations that sucked and I had to fight. Period. It wasn't cool. I'm not bragging. It just it what it is. FYI ... I didn't grow up privileged. The army paid for the move. We lived in an apartment. We didn't live on base.

How many times did you reference your upbringing; unsolicited? Do you notice how you are ASSUMING people are implying things and creating another tangent? Who exactly said you were "privileged?"

We'll pretend you have said nothing "smartassed" yourself.

So, if you didn't want it referenced you shouldn't use it, or your college communications courses, as appeals to authority.

Go introduce yourself in newbietown, describe your martial art background, describe what you want in a MA and then read ALL of the rules with your handle. It'll make posting easier for you..

**Prone** · Posted On: 11/19/2012 9:53am

Originally Posted by Azatdawn

Sounds rough.

Well, it can be - in certain areas. But that's the same everywhere on this planet.

**Azatdawn** · Posted On: 11/19/2012 9:55am

Originally Posted by Prone

Well, it can be - in certain areas. But that's the same everywhere on this planet.

That's what I've heard.

**Budo_Brown** · Posted On: 11/19/2012 11:35am

Originally Posted by It is Fake

How many times did you reference your upbringing; unsolicited? Do you notice how you are ASSUMING people are implying things and creating another tangent? Who exactly said you were "privileged?"

We'll pretend you have said nothing "smartassed" yourself.

So, if you didn't want it referenced you shouldn't use it, or your college communications courses, as appeals to authority.

Go introduce yourself in newbietown, describe your martial art background, describe what you want in a MA and then read ALL of the rules with your handle. It'll make posting easier for you..

Thanks for the advice. I'll make the intro post soon.

**Larry Kansas** · Posted On: 12/17/2012 3:48pm

Originally Posted by wetware

And a master gymnast should also be a good fighter, if for no other reason than his physical conditioning. Something wing chun tends to lack.

I studied wc for about two years and noticed how everyone except a select few of us who worked out on our own slowly got fatter and fatter.
Looking at pictures on their school website is looking like someone used the Fattify app each person. It's hilarious.

They talked about how their true wc would end a fight quickly so they didn't emphasize fitness.

**BJMills** · Posted On: 12/17/2012 4:53pm

Originally Posted by Larry Kansas

I studied wc for about two years and noticed how everyone except a select few of us who worked out on our own slowly got fatter and fatter.
Looking at pictures on their school website is looking like someone used the Fattify app each person. It's hilarious.

They talked about how their true wc would end a fight quickly so they didn't emphasize fitness.

True wing Chun will end a fight quickly, just don't expect the Chunner to be on the winning side of it.