Dear Mossberg:

**MikeRC** · Posted On: 3/29/2012 7:27pm

Dump the AR style retractable stock and put something like the K-Var hinged AK stock on it, and I'd be interested. Of course I live in the People's Republic of New York, so I'm not allowed to have folding stocks on anything semi-auto.

**wetware** · Posted On: 3/29/2012 8:34pm

Originally Posted by MikeRC

Dump the AR style retractable stock and put something like the K-Var hinged AK stock on it, and I'd be interested. Of course I live in the People's Republic of New York, so I'm not allowed to have folding stocks on anything semi-auto.

Lever action. Totally not semi.

**Devil** · Posted On: 3/30/2012 7:38am

Originally Posted by wetware

Lever action. Totally not semi.

I think his point was that he would be interested in a folding stock on a lever action since he can't have one on a semi-auto.

**MikeRC** · Posted On: 3/30/2012 8:33am

Originally Posted by Devil

I think his point was that he would be interested in a folding stock on a lever action since he can't have one on a semi-auto.

The Devil is right, that's what I was talking about. Levers, bolt guns and pumps are exempt from the NYS ban on fun features.
A way to get a compact repeater, that can fold for ease of transport without paying the premium for a pre-1994 model is really tempting, but Mossberg just vomited up some tacticool features without really bringing anything useful to the table.

**Wounded Ronin** · Posted On: 3/30/2012 8:39am

That's another reason to run a tactical musket. If bayonet lugs are ban-able, you can run an early, Renaissance-style "plug bayonet".

**Devil** · Posted On: 3/30/2012 8:41am

Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin

That's another reason to run a tactical musket. If bayonet lugs are ban-able, you can run an early, Renaissance-style "plug bayonet".

If you want something cool from Mossberg you can stick a bayonet on, may I suggest the M590A1?

**Kharon** · Posted On: 3/30/2012 9:06am

Do to the huge number of bayonet attacks in ny. Bayonet lugs have been outlawed. A few people have to ruin everything. But at least I feel so much safer now for it.

**Devil** · Posted On: 3/30/2012 9:22am

Originally Posted by Kharon

Do to the huge number of bayonet attacks in ny. Bayonet lugs have been outlawed. A few people have to ruin everything. But at least I feel so much safer now for it.

That's actually what I thought as well. But MikeRC's statement was that some of those features were exempt from lever, pump and bolt guns. I don't know the details on the New York gun laws, other than they're very restrictive.

So, do you guys know which it is? Are bayonet lugs a no-no altogether, or are there some exemptions?

**tgace** · Posted On: 3/30/2012 11:00am

NY law is almost exactly like the expired Fed AWB. Bayo lugs are one of the characteristics. If you did away with say a pistol grip you could keep the lug. If you made it so you couldn't use a magazine you could keep the grip and the lugs....

Its all very bizzare.

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**Devil** · Posted On: 3/30/2012 11:16am

Originally Posted by tgace

NY law is almost exactly like the expired Fed AWB. Bayo lugs are one of the characteristics. If you did away with say a pistol grip you could keep the lug. If you made it so you couldn't use a magazine you could keep the grip and the lugs....

Its all very bizzare.

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Interesting.

There you go, MikeRC. The Mossberg Monstrosity is pistol gripless. So, dance on over to gunbroker and get your stab on.