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  1. ChenPengFi is online now
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    For perspective marijuana activist Roger Christie is approaching two years in prison, awaiting trial.
    He's alleged to be a "threat to society".
    http://www.civilbeat.com/articles/20...oger-christie/
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    Quote Originally Posted by battheo View Post
    I can sympathise with that, and I'll openly confess that I would find it very difficult to live in accordance with my own words.

    But, what would you suggest? Would you suggest that people like this are ostracised? It's all very well to make grand statements like "such a person should not have a place, anywhere. There is legal justice, and there's moral justice." But I'm not sure that translates very well into reality. What does that even mean in practise? Are you advocating vigilante killing? Because suggesting that there is another 'non-legal' justice that must be served, and that will result in him not having a 'place, anywhere' sounds like you are.

    The law is not justice. It's a set of social constraints designed to uphold order in society. But it attempts to approximate justice. And if you want it to work, you have to abide by it, even when you're at odds with it (yeah, I wouldn't necessarily go as far as Socrates but, you know...)

    In reality, we're safer with these people inside the system than left outside of it. And further more, when a person has done their time they should be allowed back into society. I'm not saying they should have the same freedoms and privacy as everyone else (I advocate surveillance) but they should be given a fair shot at life after they've served their punishment. Young people make mistakes, and the 'normal' person has the capability to commit horrible evil. He should be given a chance at rehabilitation.

    I realise this leaves a bitter taste in the mouth, and I find it difficult to accept. It's nonetheless correct.
    You know you are advocating ostracizing the man in a different manner right? They are being giving a restricted shot at life just like the assault victims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    You know you are advocating ostracizing the man in a different manner right? They are being giving a restricted shot at life just like the assault victims.
    Yeah that's a good point.
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    LOL @ all of the hooker defenders round here. :Hehehe:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    LOL @ all of the hooker defenders round here. :Hehehe:
    There will be no LOLs here, since I don't find your defense of hooker kidnap and rape amusing. One doesn't have to be Captain "Save a Ho" to conclude the guy is an Animal who should not be back on the streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Browning View Post
    There will be no LOLs here, since I don't find your defense of hooker kidnap and rape amusing. One doesn't have to be Captain "Save a Ho" to conclude the guy is an Animal who should not be back on the streets.
    "defense of hooker kidnap and rape"????? LOL staff shouldn't fail so hard at reading comprehension. I didn't say, "Yay, another hooker rape!", now did I? I have it on good authority that past Lions Den fighters have gotten away with LETHALLY curb stomping a guy during a street fight, & that wasn't even the worst of it.
    A hooker, a CRIMINAL, gets smacked around & raped by some customers. She's alive. Again, a hooker getting smacked around & raped IS NOTHING compared to some of the other **** that's gone on in MMA.
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    A hooker, a CRIMINAL
    Yeah, breaking the law like that means she totally had it coming. I mean, you know a 17 year old is out there just committing these horrible felonies like getting in cars with strange men.


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    A hooker, a CRIMINAL.
    Prostitution is legal in Canada.
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    "defense of hooker kidnap and rape"????? LOL staff shouldn't fail so hard at reading comprehension.
    You are the last person that needs to talk about failing at reading comprehension.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude
    A hooker, a CRIMINAL, gets smacked around & raped by some customers.
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    cocaine at a downtown Toronto nightclub early on a Saturday night
    You aren't staff, wtf are you talking about reading comprehension fail for? That's you not reading correctly.



    Shortly, you'll be pulling the "I was just trolling" card.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Jude View Post
    "defense of hooker kidnap and rape"????? LOL staff shouldn't fail so hard at reading comprehension. I didn't say, "Yay, another hooker rape!", now did I? I have it on good authority that past Lions Den fighters have gotten away with LETHALLY curb stomping a guy during a street fight, & that wasn't even the worst of it.
    A hooker, a CRIMINAL, gets smacked around & raped by some customers. She's alive. Again, a hooker getting smacked around & raped IS NOTHING compared to some of the other **** that's gone on in MMA.
    You minimized a kidnapping, assualt with a deadly weapon and a rape. Your statement indicated that you regarded it as seriously as say, a parking ticket. And if the lions den fighters fatally curb stomped someone I hope they get charged and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Both crimes are horrific.
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