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  1. It is Fake is offline
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    Just stop. He has hunkered into his position and will now create many types of logical fallacies to prove HIS point.


    Keyword is "HIS" point. I mean JC just said we aren't talking about this kid and what does he do? Post pictures of the kid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Just stop. He has hunkered into his position and will now create many types of logical fallacies to prove HIS point.
    I don't need logic or arguments, the dead body does prove MY point quite nicely.

    I know, it makes people mad who want to stay academic about this.

    I'll leave you alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    You guys crack me up.

    How's this for bad logic.

    1 - This kid, armed with Skittles.



    2 - was kicking the **** out of this grown man with a criminal record of resisting arrest armed with a 9mm



    3 - Resulting in the justified death of the teenager???

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    Quoth the sage: "Yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt."
    Who said it was justified? Isn't the investigation still open?

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    But they can find reasons to not enforce it when it suits them. And the results would be the same.

    That first post got fucked up by a phone glitch.
    You are messing up the symantics. Killing someone can be judged to be justified. Once it is murder, by definition it is killing that was judged as being illegal.

    Quote Originally Posted by daddykata View Post
    My bet is charged with second degree and he pleads out at manslaughter with a reduced or no sentence. The fact that his nose and back of his head were injured supports the self defense aspect, but he's got a bit of a vigilante complex, it seems.
    Yep, that's what I think will happen as well. He can't get 1st degree and thus the dealth penalty because he will be able to argue that it wasn't premeditated. A reasonable doubt is all he has to prove. Now manslaughter he looses on all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    I don't need logic or arguments, the dead body does prove MY point quite nicely.
    No, it doesn't prove these points:
    So at what point does escalating force reach the deadly force threshold, for non law enforcement.

    Shooting people is now legal defense for losing a fistfight?

    "Your honor, he was kicking my ass...I had to do something. So I blew his brains out. Self Defense.".
    Come the **** on.

    Mr 9mm. is not LEF. He's a local armed douchebag who, according to the news, scares his neighbors a bit and shot a kid with no apparent criminal record (right) and no contraband (right?) and no weapon (right?) with a reason to be in the neighborhood (right?).

    Oh wait, it's fucking Florida. 9mm will get a plaque from the local Rotary.
    Lethal force for self defense in most places is justified only when you feel your life is in danger. Since the slain was armed only with Skittles, Mr. 9mm is going to be charged, imho.
    I know, it makes people mad who want to stay academic about this.

    I'll leave you alone.
    Says the guy storming off because we won't entertain his douchebaggery.
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    More like losing interest than storming off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    More like losing interest than storming off.
    Yet, as usual, you keep posting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    More like losing interest than storming off.
    Was the kid involved in "every fistfight, ever?" ... because when YOU broadened it to that point, it became a more general discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    Yet, as usual, you keep posting.
    I keep hoping someone will catch my interest by opening my eyes to a valid, alternative idea I hadn't thought of.

    I'll continue waiting then, silently.

    Or stormfully as Fake believes. But at least by not posting, there's less for me to have to "defend" later.*

    *By defend I mean pointlessly retrace my comments over and over and attempt to find something wrong with what I said, where there really never was any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    I keep hoping someone will catch my interest by opening my eyes to a valid, alternative idea I hadn't thought of.

    I'll continue waiting, it seems.
    LOL. Goalposts keep on moving,

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCache View Post
    Was the kid involved in "every fistfight, ever?" ... because when YOU broadened it to that point, it became a more general discussion.
    No, he didn't, we were being academic.
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    Well if he didn't broaden it initially he certainly indicated an understanding we were speaking at large ok mr it is pedantic :p

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