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  1. WoodyCorpus is offline

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    @WoodyCorpus: Dont take it so serious bro.
    This WAS me not being serious...
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    silat vs wing chun

    That was a good match will have to look for more from this organization.
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    Query: From what I've read on the old Bullshido threads so far this guy could hold his own both standing an don the ground. I this not so?
    Yeah, he's even beaten me up with his r34l kempo, as well as other bullies. But anyone with a grappling background would look at that technique he's teaching there and shake their head.
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    The Silat guy got the Wing Chuin guy down, got his arm in, created space, got him in full guard and finished the choke.

    Doesn't matter where he learned it from.

    the point being his stylistic stances and strange striking technique didn't win the fight, but his basic ground work did.

    It's better to have basic ground fundamentals than esoteric striking skills.

    Something that for some reason Wing Chun practitioners (those who don't cross train) fail time and time again to realize for no apparent reason.
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    Yeah, he's even beaten me up with his r34l kempo, as well as other bullies.
    Right. Woody, let's not mix one with the other. He was complimented for his striking.

    But anyone with a grappling background would look at that technique he's teaching there and shake their head.
    He was a strong (as in strength) crappler. No, his ground work wasn't complimented in the same fashion. There is a thread about his crappling that basically caused him to leave bullshido.
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    Thanks for clearing that up, IIF, haven't read that thread yet but a simple search will easily get me there.
    BTW: as there is no groundgame in American Kenpo, it would seem that guys like Jeff Speakman have decided to expand the style in that direction. He's doing a seminar here in Belgium about just that in April. I'll gladly report about it, wether the techniques shown are viable or not.
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    Here's the problem. If you keep reading the threads you'll see they suddenly started handing out ranks for crappling groundwork. There is a thread somewhere explaining the system. Now, maybe they all suddenly crosstrained BJJ, but it was straight up bullshido.

    No, this is not saying anything against Jeff. Just pointing out one of the many reasons Kempo gets a bad rap on this board.
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    There is no problem fot me. If Jeff's "expansions" are Bullshido I'll gladly document it and see it debunked as such :) I'm not a Kenpo apologist or anything, just a guy enjoying that style and the particular club here, and I won't try to convince anyone that Kenpo is The D34dly as there is no such thing. Hard training, sparring and understanding movement is the only way for me, and right now I'm happy where I am even though I miss the groundgame and throws.
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    silat vs wing chun

    It don't seem like the silat guy fancy movements really did anything for him practical at all.. It did not set him up for blows or anything.
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