Hiro Protagonist, glad we're cool.
That said, I'm still not sure what "teh deadly" is supposed to be.
Is it that the hypothetical "real fight" that we martial artists love to argue about?
"You can't grapple in a real fight, because you might get stabbed."
"Yeah, but in a real fight, people with knives get shot."
"Tru dat! Of course, my gun is a pretty high caliber, and I visit the shooting range sometimes. So I should be prepared, so long as I only get attacked in my house, the only place I'm allowed to keep my gun nowadays."
"Psh. I would Ninjitsu that gun right out of your hand."
"And I would Krav Maga my gun right back."
"You'd have to roll AT LEAST d18 agility to pull that off, because I'm a level 10 Kung Fu master. That, and I stole the cloak of invisibility on our last raid, so you'll also have to find me first. So take that, nerd."
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Knuckle grinds and forcing throws are frowned upon. As is springing leg locks on people, however if you have come to an agreement before rolling that leg locks are cool then go for it.
That and not adhering to the "tap early tap often" saying in newaza.
Likewise, The biggest faux pas at my school is not allowing someone the opportunity to tap. Failing to allow someone a chance to tap is met by a stern talking to from the instructor and painful, humiliating, but not injurious punishment meted out by the upper belts.
Originally Posted by jnp
we have two or three basic rules that address bad etiquette at our school:
rule #1: The Coach/Sifu is always right.
rule #2: Refer to rule #1.
There's a third rule I think but I just go with rule 1 and 2.
For me (and I speak only for myself now), bad etiquette is characterized by the following behaviors:
1. Being a total spaz/fight-for-your-life neophyte when free-rolling.
2. Cornering people when a. you're new to the school (your first few classes there) and/or b. you have no idea wtf you're saying.
3. This has already been mentioned: going for leg-locks when you have not OK'd it with your rolling partner. It's rude and dangerous. Especially don't do this if you're new at the school. I don't know you. Stop trying to break my ankle.
4. Routinely being late to class and/or purposely bitching out on warm-ups. Not cool.
5. Showing up to class without the proper uniform, especially a student who is not new to the school.
6. Questioning a instructor's technique or anything else the instructor is showing or saying. Wait till after class and please refer to Rule #1 and Rule #2 if you have further questions.
I have no idea if other people at my school care about one or any of these things. They are pet-peeves of mine and as I such I consider them "bad-etiquette".
Rule 1: I'm right
Originally Posted by animlmthr
Rule 2: I'm right
Rule 3: Don't argue with me; I'm right.
Originally Posted by Omega Supreme
New students tend to follow these rules whether they realizeit it or not, students that have been around for a while usually skip #2 and #3.
Rule 1: Iím right.
Rule 2: Donít argue with me Iím right.
Rule 3: Ok Iíll smack you around the mat and prove Iím right.
Rule 4: Iím right.
being a bad sport,smelling badly,unclean gi's or shorts
and upholding the class when the coach talks is an absolute no go
Good oral hygiene is always appreciated, but not as much as short clean nails. Only Sabuhmnim is allowed to suspend face contact rules in the heat of the moment.
Assuming that the technique they are trying to do is legal in competitions, why would that be rude?
Originally Posted by animlmthr
I don't really care about whether they're legal techniques or not per se. I just like it to be established that we are going for leg locks before we start rolling. Not everyone knows how to apply them in a safe manner while grappling and I don't want to get hurt. Those students that I know are cool, then its all good. We for 'em and it's a lot of fun.
Originally Posted by Nefron
If a new person has just joined the school or is visiting I don't think you should start going for leglocks, kneebars, heel hooks, whatever. You're still a guest in my eyes and, frankly, I don't know you. For me its a trust thing, thats all.