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  1. JohnnyS is offline

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    4/13/2004 7:25pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Do you mean the one where the guy is trying to pas the guard, the guy on the bottom controls the sleeve, has his shin across the bicep, triangles his feet, pulls with both hands on the tricep and pushes his knees out wide? Cause that's the one that's caused the two broken arms that I know of, and the guys felt no pain on their forearm before the break.
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    Controls sleeve? WTF is a sleeve? bwhahahahahahahah.


    When the legs become involved it's a different matter, when it's just the arms or the leg as a fulcrum I say it's just pain.
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    4/13/2004 11:15pm

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    Sleeve, what sleeve? I don't do bjj anymore, just no gi subgrappling, and vale tudo.
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    Ok, then substitute sleeve for wrist. Is that the same technique you're thinking of?
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    I got a hairline fracture of my radius bone in a bicep crush.A guy at the first arnold classic has his arm horribly busted in one.His hand touch his own deltoid which is hard in itself, but with a wristbone inside your elbow as it happens.It means a big elbow seperation.
    Ive heard stories on guys getting their bicep ripped off the tendon as the attacker turns his wrist causing the bicep to roll up to the shoulder.
    Dont know this to be true, just heard it.
    Ive also seen HORRIBLE bruising from bicep crushes.
    HOWEVER.... I think rarely is a bicep crush in so well that it will damage anything.
    I guess my point is....
    pain is there for a reason.
    Its a signal to stop doing what is causing you pain because you could suffer damage.
    I always tell people "if it feels like something will break, it probably well"

    Though admittedly, I cant imagine tapping to a bicep crush in competition.
    Even the time in fractured my bone I escaped and kept grappling, not knowing it was broke for a week.
    Last edited by Strong Machine; 4/13/2004 11:36pm at .
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    Well there is two that say you could break bones so I'll let my guys know. I've just never seen it.
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    4/13/2004 11:45pm

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    No the one I was thinking of doesn't have the same leverage of the one you just mentioned, it is actually best applied when someone tries to slip out of an armbar and can either attack the bicep or the nerves on the cruck of the elbow. But I am familiar with the one you just mentioned JohnnyS, and when someone has it trapped like you mentioned,(especially with a gi to grab),I see how that can fracture the radius. P.S. just kidding about the gi thing, used to train in it alot.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Well if he didn't know you were kidding he ought to be shot. Then again he is Australian.
    Last edited by Omega; 4/14/2004 1:07am at .
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    Originally posted by omega
    Well is he didn't know you were kidding he ought to be shot. Then again he is Australian.
    -hmm interesting, I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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    Well, so the basic idea is that it can break something? I actually have respect for the sub now. I just felt really crappy for tapping to it just because it hurts...cause damn, that is one step above tapping because you gas.
    And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.
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