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  1. CNagy is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmichearse View Post
    I've kind of fallen out of using the forum, but, this came up on my facebook.
    As a vegan involved in this very meaty sport I thought I'd throw in some thoughts.

    A lot of vegans don't associate or agree with PETA. PETA is like the Westboro Baptist Church of animal rights.

    I, and many other vegans I know, believe veganism to be a privilege of our industrial/post industrial society. It's a decision based on our moral qualms over the way that this food is acquired. In a hypothetical hunter gatherer situation I would obviously not be vegan. Or if I was in a pre-industrial or 3rd world situation, being vegan is obviously a big privilege

    I also think that vegans that spend time arguing over technicalities in digestion, the shape of our teeth, certain societies or animals having vegan friendly diets etc etc... lose sight of the fact that it ends up being a personal choice to ease your own moral dilemmas. Being part of the 1st world, if you care to notice, comes with some questionable practices.

    But, by all means, make fun of PETA, hippies, 40 year old Buddhist liberals . I do.
    Theoretically, would you raise chickens if you had the necessary space? Not for slaughter, just raise hens for eggs. I feel like if the answer is no, then you are committed to veganism beyond the objection to the methods of animal-based foodstuff production. If the answer is yes, there are brands whose eggs...
    ...are produced on farms certified for organic production and are USDA Certified Organic. Chickens live in a cage-free environment, with perch holes for roosting, comfortable nests and access to protected roaming yards. They’re raised on an all-natural, organic diet-no hormones added-of four different types of grain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNagy View Post
    Would you raise chickens if you had the necessary space? Not for slaughter, just raise hens for eggs. I feel like if the answer is no, then you are committed to veganism beyond the objection to the methods of animal-based foodstuff production. If the answer is yes, there are brands whose eggs...
    That cage-free environment is a nice start. Still, male fledglings often get killed due to how useless they are in terms of laying eggs even in farms that are certified for organic production.
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    Coconut milk or soy stuff, probably.
    Than its not yogurt damnit!!! I am so sick of vegan semantics mind games!
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    Exactly. If meat/animal products are so abhorrent, why do they insist on recreating them as nearly as possible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereBeADragon View Post
    Than its not yogurt damnit!!! I am so sick of vegan semantics mind games!
    Vegan semantics: coconut or soy milk fermented into yogurt is still killing millions of bacteria in the fermentation and eating processes. You can't just save the cute fluffy animals, man. That's like fascism. You know who else was a fascist who wanted to kill millions he deemed undesirable? Hitler. Eating yogurt makes you Hitler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    Vegan semantics: coconut or soy milk fermented into yogurt is still killing millions of bacteria in the fermentation and eating processes. You can't just save the cute fluffy animals, man. That's like fascism. You know who else was a fascist who wanted to kill millions he deemed undesirable? Hitler. Eating yogurt makes you Hitler.
    Congrats Permalost, you just became the Republican front runner candidate.
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    Just as a comparison:


    Vegan: Kale, chickpea and onion salad.

    Normal Person:

    All belly Porchetta.

    Yeah, I think I know what I'm going with.

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    vs.

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    I reckon, that Kale looks delectable.

    On the other hand, I have no idea what the **** Kale is, nor do I particularly enjoy chick peas and that is not onion, it is Spanish onion.

    I have been trying to eat paleo/ right for your blood type style diet and because I am o negative, I am forced to eat rare to medium rare steak and and some other things, but I didn't really pay attention to the other things because steak. Unfortunately the blood type diet states I shouldn't eat pig products but rules are meant to be bacon, I mean broken.
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    I ate a vegan once. Surprisingly she didn't taste any different than an omnivorous girl.










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    Anyway... yeah those lipids and b12s we need... not getting them from vegetables.

    Even more so, vegan diets are so high in grains that it's ridiculous. Humans didn't grow large brains whilst chowing on kale and quinoa. Our brains got this size because after racking them and trying to figure out how to corral those mammoths into caves, we ate...


    mammoths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by battlefields View Post
    I reckon, that Kale looks delectable.

    On the other hand, I have no idea what the **** Kale is, nor do I particularly enjoy chick peas and that is not onion, it is Spanish onion.

    I have been trying to eat paleo/ right for your blood type style diet and because I am o negative, I am forced to eat rare to medium rare steak and and some other things, but I didn't really pay attention to the other things because steak. Unfortunately the blood type diet states I shouldn't eat pig products but rules are meant to be bacon, I mean broken.
    That whole "Eat Right for Your Blood Type" thing is a bunch of BS, BTW.
    http://www.webmd.com/diet/eat-right-for-your-type
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type_diet
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