Villari's: A discussion between myself and one of Villari's "Seven Dragons"

**LI GUY 1** · Posted On: 2/15/2012 10:23am

Originally Posted by feelingofpower

VILLARI"S MASTER:
You will find many officers and military use the methods we teach and not what you see on TV. No military or police officer wants to grapple if they can not help it. They do not want to struggle for the gun and try to fend the person off. Even mercenaries don't do the MMA TV stuff. They run by, slit your throat and move on to the next person.

I have read the military manuals, which are mainly BJJ, and they stress grappling as a more efficient way to engage and kill in unarmed combat, and the inefficiency of attempting a KO or striking. Take into account the military is wearing gear weighing them down, grappling is easier.
Also, it mentions the most likely person to win in any unarmed situation regardless of technique as the one whose partners show up first to assist in the fight.

**feelingofpower** · Posted On: 2/15/2012 6:42pm

Originally Posted by LI GUY 1

I have read the military manuals, which are mainly BJJ, and they stress grappling as a more efficient way to engage and kill in unarmed combat, and the inefficiency of attempting a KO or striking. Take into account the military is wearing gear weighing them down, grappling is easier.
Also, it mentions the most likely person to win in any unarmed situation regardless of technique as the one whose partners show up first to assist in the fight.

I know what this guy (the Villari's guy, that is) is saying is crap, but I kind of just give up. It's like trying to convince a young-earth creationist that evolution is a scientific fact...

Someday, I would like to challenge this bastard to a sparring match, but I definitely don't have the skills right now.

I'd like to thank Bullshido, actually. It was thanks to this site that my eyes were opened to how bad my martial arts training actually was under Villari's. You saved me Bullshido!

**Eudemic** · Posted On: 2/15/2012 8:39pm

Originally Posted by feelingofpower

It was thanks to this site that my eyes were opened to how bad my martial arts training actually was under Villari's. You saved me Bullshido!

No need to thank us, citizen! All in a day's work!

**Rivington** · Posted On: 2/16/2012 1:52am

Originally Posted by feelingofpower

Someday, I would like to challenge this bastard to a sparring match, but I definitely don't have the skills right now.

But if everything he says is ****, and his training is ****, it should be easy, right?

**feelingofpower** · Posted On: 2/17/2012 7:38pm

Originally Posted by Rivington

But if everything he says is ****, and his training is ****, it should be easy, right?

ehh...

He's got a least 80 pounds on me, and from what I remember, his skills were decent. However, I believe he got those skills though real experience; NOT the type of training he gives out.

**M-Tri** · Posted On: 2/26/2012 4:26pm

Originally Posted by feelingofpower

ehh...

He's got a least 80 pounds on me, and from what I remember, his skills were decent. However, I believe he got those skills though real experience; NOT the type of training he gives out.

Smart assessment. Many people make the mistake of underestimating a large strong man just because he is involved with crap martial arts.